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08-23-2016 | 08:49 AM
#171
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To match UAL on a weighted average we need a 14% increase now and 3% per year thereafter not counting PS. With PS and if we retain the pensionable aspect of the PS we will gain at least 10% more above UAL. 22% now would net us around 18% more than UAL with the higher expected PS. Even if the PS numbers came in exactly the same we would net 11.5 percent more with PS being pensionable.
08-23-2016 | 08:55 AM
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So how do you guys justify our payscale and the UPS scale vis a vis the UAL payscale? I for one find it unacceptable to vote for something that pays our 777s vastly more than a UAL 777 while I get industry standard. So there.
08-23-2016 | 10:02 AM
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UAL has a ton more 777 than us.
08-23-2016 | 10:18 AM
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Scenario 1) If the 767s here get UPS +1%, our 777s get UPS + a ton. Is that fair?
Scenario 2) If the 777s here get UPS +1%, everybody else gets less than industry standard. is THAT fair?
08-23-2016 | 10:32 AM
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Are narrow body fleet get the % up from where they are at now that took are Intl fleet up to 1% better than UPS
08-23-2016 | 10:44 AM
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Read it slow James. Make all are Intl pay the same. 777, 350, 330,765, ER when flying Intl. They should be 1% better than UPS.
All are other fleets get the pay bump up % wise that it took to get UPS 1% from how far the ER intl flying came up to UPS 1% better.
PS stays the same
Vacation and training pay gets better
All are other fleets get the pay bump up % wise that it took to get UPS 1% from how far the ER intl flying came up to UPS 1% better.
PS stays the same
Vacation and training pay gets better
08-23-2016 | 11:04 AM
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Read it slow James. Make all are Intl pay the same. 777, 350, 330,765, ER when flying Intl. They should be 1% better than UPS.
All are other fleets get the pay bump up % wise that it took to get UPS 1% from how far the ER intl flying came up to UPS 1% better.
PS stays the same
Vacation and training pay gets better
All are other fleets get the pay bump up % wise that it took to get UPS 1% from how far the ER intl flying came up to UPS 1% better.
PS stays the same
Vacation and training pay gets better
08-23-2016 | 11:19 AM
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OK, correct what I am saying that is wrong. UPS has wide body/narrow body pay, right? therefore 777s 330s 76-400s 7ERs all pay the same. If the 330 guys are getting the same pay as the 7ER guys, why wouldn't they be pizzed?
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