Probably some truth in Buzz's report along with opinions posted as facts and outright BS, I have heard directly from Reps in both camps. Their versions are not compatible.

The whole thing is a mess with neither side taking the high road and the Pilot group (me include) not knowing what to believe.


If anyone thinks one group is comprised of Saintly do-gooders fighting valiantly for the Pilot group and the other side is evil obstructionists only trying to further a hidden agenda then they are fools.

The Reps and complete DALPA administration are being torn in multiple directions by many things - not every Rep/DALPA staffer has the same motivations but they probably all have a few of these items on their mind:

Doing what think is best for the Pilot group.
Doing what they think is achievable.
Doing what they think the majority of Pilots want.
Keeping promises.
Possible future ALPA/DALPA positions for themselves.
Leaving/killing DALPA.

Feel free to add to the above list.

The bottom line is if DALPA doesn't get its act together the big losers will be us - the Pilot group.



Scoop

All fair points. Agree completely.

We should be asking ourselves this, though:

By sending us home, is the NMB warning/punishing us or the company? Do we think the attorneys, administration, and NC would reach a logical conclusion? Do you think they would pass that conclusion on to the reps?

Which side does it sound like ignored the advice of the people they hired/elected?

The NMB does this as a matter of course, which is why we put it in the PWA to go to them jointly only 4 months into the process. That gets the clock running. The illusion that this will be quick is part of your agenda. The only way we get a quick deal is if it favors management.

Btw, where is the efin leadership? Nothing, NADA from JM.

I think many of the reps are asking the same question. :(

I beg to differ. Management would be more than happy keeping the current deal for as long as they possibly can.

I agree 100%.

So you are saying we can get a quick deal that benefits the pilots greatly but management would like to keep what we have? :confused:

You just have to focus notEnuf, focus!!
Focus on the payrates and ignore all the concessions...

Are you referring to the 777/747 payrates that I will never see? It's hard to focus on things you will never see. Physically impossible actually.

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