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Old 09-10-2019, 05:19 AM   #3321  
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It'll be nice to see drops with something other than NYC again later this year. When the current AE closes I'd imagine there will still be unbid time positions in DTW, SLC, LAX, and ATL. Heck maybe even MSP could start seeing new hires if they really do open up a 717 base there.
I think you will see a lot of the newhires moving out of NYC. My guess is there will be very small amounts of non-NYC leftovers
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Old 09-10-2019, 06:02 AM   #3322  
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It'll be nice to see drops with something other than NYC again later this year. When the current AE closes I'd imagine there will still be unbid positions in DTW, SLC, LAX, and ATL. Heck maybe even MSP could start seeing new hires if they really do open up a 717 base there.
Well if I read the AE right, ATL will be.......
.....on the maddog......
and folks will bid NYC to avoid the maddog.
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Old 09-10-2019, 06:21 AM   #3323  
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It'll be nice to see drops with something other than NYC again later this year. When the current AE closes I'd imagine there will still be unbid positions in DTW, SLC, LAX, and ATL. Heck maybe even MSP could start seeing new hires if they really do open up a 717 base there.
Some, but not many. With more than a week to go, there are already enough #1 bids in senior to me to fill all non-NYC 73N, 320, and M88(???) openings (surprisingly few on LAX320B, though). The DTW717B bids are almost full, and there are only 7 SLCC10B bids in. Both of those categories have a lot of guys in NYC junior to me that I have to imagine are bidding out and will likely fill up most of those remaining slots.

So without seeing the junior bids, the only one that seems to really have a chance of not being filled is SLCC10B. But who knows what kind of waterfall bids could open up.

P.S. is there a way to see TOTAL bids for a position, rather than just those senior to you?
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Old 09-10-2019, 06:29 AM   #3324  
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Some, but not many. With more than a week to go, there are already enough #1 bids in senior to me to fill all non-NYC 73N, 320, and M88(???) openings (surprisingly few on LAX320B, though). The DTW717B bids are almost full, and there are only 7 SLCC10B bids in. Both of those categories have a lot of guys in NYC junior to me that I have to imagine are bidding out and will likely fill up most of those remaining slots.

So without seeing the junior bids, the only one that seems to really have a chance of not being filled is SLCC10B. But who knows what kind of waterfall bids could open up.

P.S. is there a way to see TOTAL bids for a position, rather than just those senior to you?
Using the bid award function for those senior to use as a prognostic tool is virtually useless. You can’t view what restrictions each bidder has and many pilots as a technique bid their own category with a restriction. Those show up as bids senior to you.
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Well if I read the AE right, ATL will be.......

.....on the maddog......

and folks will bid NYC to avoid the maddog.


Unless every person in that class is <30, no one will choose to commute in order to not fly the 88.


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Hey guys. With the recent drops what would be the fastest route to DTW? 737 or 717? How junior in class would a last four of 3xxx be? Thanks!
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Hey guys. With the recent drops what would be the fastest route to DTW? 737 or 717? How junior in class would a last four of 3xxx be? Thanks!
Probably the 717. Generally the most junior airplane we have.

Also, looks like they want up to 30 new hires in the mad dog. So ATL will be possible soon! Last but not least, 90 more new hires for the rest of the year followed by “substantial” hiring in 2020.
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Unless every person in that class is <30, no one will choose to commute in order to not fly the 88.

Not sure about that. With the retirements we have coming up in the next couple of years it will be very short timelines to get just about any base in the narrow body you want on the FO side of things. If given the choice of being locked into the MD88 for a minimum of two years to be based in Atlanta versus taking the A320 to NYC knowing that the odds are good you'd get to Atlanta within 6-9 months with the movement that's coming... I think quite a few people would go for the tray table. Just a thought.

I flew the 10 back in the early 2000's. I did enjoy flying Big Sexy as it was referred to.
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Not sure about that. With the retirements we have coming up in the next couple of years it will be very short timelines to get just about any base in the narrow body you want on the FO side of things. If given the choice of being locked into the MD88 for a minimum of two years to be based in Atlanta versus taking the A320 to NYC knowing that the odds are good you'd get to Atlanta within 6-9 months with the movement that's coming... I think quite a few people would go for the tray table. Just a thought.

I flew the 10 back in the early 2000's. I did enjoy flying Big Sexy as it was referred to.
Not 90 total....he said 90 additional new hire spots added to the 4th Q plan.....its' only 90 spots if they origianlly planned on hiring 0 for the 4th quarter.
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Not sure about that. With the retirements we have coming up in the next couple of years it will be very short timelines to get just about any base in the narrow body you want on the FO side of things. If given the choice of being locked into the MD88 for a minimum of two years to be based in Atlanta versus taking the A320 to NYC knowing that the odds are good you'd get to Atlanta within 6-9 months with the movement that's coming... I think quite a few people would go for the tray table. Just a thought.

I flew the 10 back in the early 2000's. I did enjoy flying Big Sexy as it was referred to.
A bunch of guys & girls used that logic about 2 years ago and they’re either still in NYC, or used the 1 year new hire exemption to the seat lock and have changed fleets (with a 3 year seat lock in their new category).
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