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Old 08-29-2016 | 02:06 PM
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I'm looking forward to reading section 1. The company wants it something fierce and that makes me....hesitant.
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Old 08-29-2016 | 02:31 PM
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This deal is less total compensation than Delta TA1. There would be a riot if in 3 years a 15% raise was offered and "full" retro based on 3-4% raises per year.

From the amendable date this is effectively a UPS type 3/4/4/4/3/3/3 raise.

The addition of a B plan is a very nice gain for them.
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Old 08-29-2016 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
This deal is less total compensation than Delta TA1.
Only if you include the PS trade for the 6% raise from TA1 is SWA more. Did SWAPA buy their pay raises?
You can't have your cake and eat it, too.
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Old 08-29-2016 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
This deal is less total compensation than Delta TA1. There would be a riot if in 3 years a 15% raise was offered and "full" retro based on 3-4% raises per year.

From the amendable date this is effectively a UPS type 3/4/4/4/3/3/3 raise.

The addition of a B plan is a very nice gain for them.
Care to be more specific
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Old 08-29-2016 | 02:57 PM
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If I had to guess I would say the B-Plan is their 401k and it is being increased from 9.3% up to 15% over 3 years to get where ours is...
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Old 08-29-2016 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by buckleyboy
Only if you include the PS trade for the 6% raise from TA1 is SWA more. Did SWAPA buy their pay raises?
You can't have your cake and eat it, too.
8/0/3/3 is the same as 4/4/3/3.

Anyways that's all theoretical.

Bottom line, SWA and UPS type 3/3/3/3/3/3/3 deals will not help our case in the eyes of the NMB to get anywhere remotely close to 22/7/7. It'll be a win if we can get the rumored 18/4/4.
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Old 08-29-2016 | 03:20 PM
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15% B-fund. Sweet. Now we're talking.
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Old 08-29-2016 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
8/0/3/3 is the same as 4/4/3/3.

Anyways that's all theoretical.

Bottom line, SWA and UPS type 3/3/3/3/3/3/3 deals will not help our case in the eyes of the NMB to get anywhere remotely close to 22/7/7. It'll be a win if we can get the rumored 18/4/4.
looks like you are back to your old ways...we all knew it wouldn't last long.
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Old 08-29-2016 | 03:39 PM
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To clarify, SWA Uses a Trip for Pay (TFP) as the unit for pay. Current 12 year captain is $189.78 per TFP. The union uses a conversion factor of 1.149 to convert this to an hourly wage. Thus current hourly rate equivalent is $218.06 and the Agreement rate effective Oct 1 would be $250.76
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Old 08-29-2016 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by hindsight2020
15% B-fund. Sweet. Now we're talking.
Delta currently has a 15% B fund.


Originally Posted by tunes
looks like you are back to your old ways...we all knew it wouldn't last long.
If you see how this deal helps us achieve our opener let me know. I'm all ears
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