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10-18-2016 | 11:20 AM
#131
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I was using the previous poster's 1 Flight ~ 1% in order to show that even by his/her assumption the lose of 5 flights world wide, 1 of them being trans-Atlantic still puts Delta in compliance.
The bottom line is we can go from roughly 687,000 block hours to 650,000.
This is a loss of 37,000 block hours, regardless of which theatre they come from. The only metric is AF/KLM compliance they could go down to 1 trans-Atlantic international flight as long as it is matched by 1 AF/KLM flight and there is no global block hour floor.
A much better way to do this is to require a minimum of 95% of the previous years block hours and a ratio of all Delta international flying to all of the code share flying.
Delta pilots will fly 50% of all global international EASKs, if not in compliance then no less than 95% of the previous years global block hours. In any year where EASKs flown by codeshare partners exceeds those flown by Delta the number of excess EASKs will be multiplied by X dollars and distributed to the pilots.
The bottom line is we can go from roughly 687,000 block hours to 650,000.
This is a loss of 37,000 block hours, regardless of which theatre they come from. The only metric is AF/KLM compliance they could go down to 1 trans-Atlantic international flight as long as it is matched by 1 AF/KLM flight and there is no global block hour floor.
A much better way to do this is to require a minimum of 95% of the previous years block hours and a ratio of all Delta international flying to all of the code share flying.
Delta pilots will fly 50% of all global international EASKs, if not in compliance then no less than 95% of the previous years global block hours. In any year where EASKs flown by codeshare partners exceeds those flown by Delta the number of excess EASKs will be multiplied by X dollars and distributed to the pilots.
10-18-2016 | 11:42 AM
#132
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Yep, thanks for asking.
One problem I have with your accounting. You say these are numbers through Oct. If you're talking calendar year, you're fudging numbers in dividing flight frequency by 366. The loss is actually 2 daily round trips per day if we're talking calendar year for all your figures above. And that's 2 round trips per day below our already out of compliance 47.7%. Use the actual 50% target, not the 48.5% floor (now ceiling) in current contract, and we get a more accurate picture of what we're giving away in metrics.
One problem I have with your accounting. You say these are numbers through Oct. If you're talking calendar year, you're fudging numbers in dividing flight frequency by 366. The loss is actually 2 daily round trips per day if we're talking calendar year for all your figures above. And that's 2 round trips per day below our already out of compliance 47.7%. Use the actual 50% target, not the 48.5% floor (now ceiling) in current contract, and we get a more accurate picture of what we're giving away in metrics.
10-18-2016 | 12:33 PM
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A much better way to do this is to require a minimum of 95% of the previous years block hours and a ratio of all Delta international flying to all of the code share flying.
Delta pilots will fly 50% of all global international EASKs, if not in compliance then no less than 95% of the previous years global block hours. In any year where EASKs flown by codeshare partners exceeds those flown by Delta the number of excess EASKs will be multiplied by X dollars and distributed to the pilots.
Delta pilots will fly 50% of all global international EASKs, if not in compliance then no less than 95% of the previous years global block hours. In any year where EASKs flown by codeshare partners exceeds those flown by Delta the number of excess EASKs will be multiplied by X dollars and distributed to the pilots.
1). 95% of the year before, over a multi-year downturn, seems like a poor choice.
2). 50% could be selling yourself short in future JV's. I think we're well above that with VA (and rightly so). Based on our size, and depending on the market, we might be entitled to more.
Just food for thought.
10-18-2016 | 01:11 PM
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I like the measured and rational approach, but two small comments:
1). 95% of the year before, over a multi-year downturn, seems like a poor choice.
2). 50% could be selling yourself short in future JV's. I think we're well above that with VA (and rightly so). Based on our size, and depending on the market, we might be entitled to more.
Just food for thought.
1). 95% of the year before, over a multi-year downturn, seems like a poor choice.
2). 50% could be selling yourself short in future JV's. I think we're well above that with VA (and rightly so). Based on our size, and depending on the market, we might be entitled to more.
Just food for thought.
The 50% global requires we do half the total flying not controlling each JV or theater individually, which allows the flexibility Delta seeks.
My $0.02. I welcome the criticism.
10-18-2016 | 04:10 PM
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criticism - the act of making careful judgments about good and bad qualities (usually when evaluating art)
examination would have been a better choice of word.
No negative connotation intended. I gotta use more emojis.
I think this could work. If there's a flaw in the logic, I'll move on. Doesn't matter in relation to the vote but we have to find a better score card for scope or we lose the KISS principle and the interpretations are twisted.
examination would have been a better choice of word.
No negative connotation intended. I gotta use more emojis.
I think this could work. If there's a flaw in the logic, I'll move on. Doesn't matter in relation to the vote but we have to find a better score card for scope or we lose the KISS principle and the interpretations are twisted.
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