Flying airplane safely from point A to B is the pilots job. Making network decisions as to where we fly, the frequency and the size of aircraft that is managements job. I don't believe AF, KLM and AZ are cheaper operations than Delta so it would not help Delta to do all their flying. This is not the same as regional feed. Anyway if the JV scope has been changed in a way that you can't accept the no vote is your right. I myself think the overall package (haven't read it all yet in sufficient detail) is a win. I think this TA meets the threshold for the YES vote.

 

No. it's not a rant. We did exactly that. It is a violation of our contract. If the JV partners can fly those routes, then so can we. Otherwise, other airlines are flying our pax. Agreeing to a JV with 50% then allowing them to drop almost 5% while just promising to keep global numbers the same is not a win.

 

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You are as uninformed as you are consistent.
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The primary driver of us being contractually non-compliant over the Atlantic was Air France's decision, several years ago, to add multiple A-380s to the trans-atlantic mix. Our network dept., faced with declining Atlantic traffic, wisely held our Atlantic fleet status quo. The result was that our share of EASKs went down.
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We have no "control" over AF's fleet decisions but the Company decided it would cost more to add unneeded capacity in the face of declining loads than to litigate the contractual under-performance later. (and BTW, Air France has continued to struggle to fill their A-380s and recently declined to accept the last tranche of firm order A-380s they were slated to receive)

So, although our EASK production ratio was sub-contractual several years ago, the main reason was that our "partner" over-produced their share of EASKs. We did not reduce our flying in that theater 5%.
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Talk to Network if you want corroboration or confirmation of the above. They will actually take the time to explain it to you.
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I am a yes vote but this is an excellent point. Obviously DAL views Large Jet Scope more as guidelines than rules.

Scoop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GMkuPiIZ2k

 

Delta currently is interested in outsourcing large aircraft flying....And has done more of it than any company in history.....why stop now when you are on a roll!!!?????

 

Isn't it strange that over the Atlantic where the JV being discussed is centered we have more flights then any other airline!

 

and lots of flights in smaller lower paying equipment...Block hour worshiping extended, why not use 737 s to Shannon and Keflavik and a host of other points....better yet The C series on etops.....

 

the 'uberization' of air travel?

 

The facts however show that we have substantially upsized the overall equipment in Europe.

 

This deal provides some protection against 737/A321 across the Atlantic. Perfect, certainly not, but more than we currently have which is zero protection.