I see a problem with the "we" let it die part... If "we" is the MEC, how many times can I count on the MEC to represent us all? What if more people don't like how it plays out than do like how it plays out, but the MEC can't see it that way...? Like when they settled the JV grievance for a few bucks and then gave the bulk of those bucks to the senior-highest-paid guys for whom the violation(s) didn't even affect?
Your vote is the only thing you can control, and what the MEC may choose to do later may not be anything you have much say about...

 

They are not going to cancel all that international flying out of MSO/SLC/NYC/ATL to do this. If senior bubbas take the deal, someone junior will then be able to hold one of those international trips. If not, then they would be deadheading someone from another base to cover that trip. What would be the purpose of that? I am not buying any of the Defcon 10 panic that is arising over this.

 

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Are you certain that's always the case?

I fly RDU/PIT-CDG and PHL-LHR sometimes. We have no ER pilot base there, so I bet those would be ripe for VB assignments. My base does not have those trips every day...some days of the month the pilots for those flights come from at least 2 other ER bases. I have even flown transoceanic trips out of other ER pilot bases.

The "out-base" flying is decided by the rotation construction algorithm, not necessarily from where the trip originates. I believe its' primary goal in generating rotations is to minimize credit time. And the above examples seem to change from month to month, never a static base flying them.

So I doubt you could sustain your argument that the block hours would always come from the same base, since the bases doing specific flying seem to change so much.
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From the MEC: "flight time flown in a vb must proportionately come from pilots' original base"


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Ok, I should have said mostly agree. But my point remains, if reserve coverage is needed at a VB, there will be more pilots in the VB than time lost from the base they came out of.

Denny

 

The way I read it, can't start with ocean crossing. How would that rotation look?

 

There are so many things that we depend on the MEC for in between contract cycles. At some point you have to trust someone. For the majority of the time all we can do is give our input and elect reps we hope will fairly represent us. I'm glad there are people who want to do the union stuff, because I don't want to do it.

I think this VB thing is a lot like CDOs. Some will like it, some will despise it.