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Originally Posted by Dirtdiver
(Post 2235730)
What worries me is that adjustments to the test and the pull down decision will be made unilaterally, not by memrat
We need to make sure we keep a majority of reps who are willing to say no to management. |
Originally Posted by MikeF16
(Post 2235554)
Example: Senior commuter lives in Dallas and uses their seniority to bid double commutable NYC trips. VB established in Tampa. All those late sign-in early sign-out trips that used to do NYC-TPA are now gone to a new hire who just happens to live in Florida and bid the TPA VB. How is that fair? That has most definitely abrogated the seniority system.
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Originally Posted by Bert Sampson
(Post 2235822)
Isn't there a stipulation that if you're >125 mi from the VB you get positive space to and from rotations? Couldn't this senior Dallas bidder bid for that and not have to worry about the commute for the duration of the VB?
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Originally Posted by Dirtdiver
(Post 2235801)
The flying time will come out of your bid package. How could that be good for you?
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I say we do the test period and if the company wants to continue it then it apparently has value and we have them pay again or pull it down. I would imagine that is what the bean counters would do if it was reversed.
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
(Post 2235554)
It's a good question and no offense taken.
Commuters lose no seniority in commuting. They have made a voluntary choice to use their seniority to enable their commuting lifestyle. VB will remove trips from the bid package which somebody who hasn't bid a VB (both commuters and those who live in domicile) would have had access to. Example: Senior commuter lives in Dallas and uses their seniority to bid double commutable NYC trips. VB established in Tampa. All those late sign-in early sign-out trips that used to do NYC-TPA are now gone to a new hire who just happens to live in Florida and bid the TPA VB. How is that fair? That has most definitely abrogated the seniority system. |
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 2235605)
Don't need too. They just pull out of the test program. Boom, it's over.
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Originally Posted by Dirtdiver
(Post 2235801)
The flying time will come out of your bid package. How could that be good for you?
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2235874)
Would if it pulls crappy non commutable trips out of the bid package and the VB pilot is senior to the commuter?
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
(Post 2235966)
Wouldn't it be nice to know before hand?
Sailing, JB and others are totally playing the management pilot role/card. It's just one of the poison pills in the TA. It's completely undefined. Oh Ya it's calcellable? Why is there any aspect to allow this? Get your heads out your asses! The company does not ask or work any angle unless it is in favor for them. |
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