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01-26-2017 | 09:31 PM
#102
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You don't think this went on with DALPA in the past? The only difference is that the "Dirty Dozen" had the integrity to do it in public, knowing full well there would be blowback.
01-26-2017 | 09:42 PM
#103
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The Company’s unilateral action did not comply with the PWA, which requires the Company to notify and involve ALPA through the Fatigue Risk Management Team (FRMT). By requesting an exemption to Table A of FAR Part 117 without informing the FRMT, the Company failed to follow both PWA Section 24 V. and the cooperative spirit and intent of the FRMT process.
I contacted Delta senior management to inform them of their violation of our PWA and our opposition to any increase in daily block hour flying limits. Consequently, we insisted the Company withdraw its petition. Management acknowledged it did not provide ALPA the appropriate notice per the PWA and agreed to withdraw the petition in its entirety.
This is how your union works. I would like to thank the line pilots who brought this violation to our attention and our MEC administration for their immediate action. When elected as your chairman, I committed to negotiating and defending our contract as one of my core goals. Your union responded swiftly and acted decisively to rectify the situation.
I contacted Delta senior management to inform them of their violation of our PWA and our opposition to any increase in daily block hour flying limits. Consequently, we insisted the Company withdraw its petition. Management acknowledged it did not provide ALPA the appropriate notice per the PWA and agreed to withdraw the petition in its entirety.
This is how your union works. I would like to thank the line pilots who brought this violation to our attention and our MEC administration for their immediate action. When elected as your chairman, I committed to negotiating and defending our contract as one of my core goals. Your union responded swiftly and acted decisively to rectify the situation.
Unfortunately and inadvertently, Delta’s filing occurred without advance notice to ALPA. This filing would have been just the first step in a lengthy FAA review process to determine the feasibility of limited block time extensions. The Fatigue Risk Management Team, comprised of both Company and ALPA members, would have overseen and approved the data collection process prior to its implementation. We have withdrawn the petition so that we can ensure full coordination under Section 24 V. of the PWA.
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01-27-2017 | 12:17 AM
#104
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01-27-2017 | 05:08 AM
#105
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This is what I'm talking about folks. NWA bravado at its best. Wants to be militant while having little to no knowledge of what he's talking about. If you're skeptical that the sky isn't blue at least look outside. Reference the following from Captain Malone:
From SD:
Stating the Company could have unilaterally imposed 9:45 without regard to union input or the PWA is nonsense and an alternative fact.
From SD:
Stating the Company could have unilaterally imposed 9:45 without regard to union input or the PWA is nonsense and an alternative fact.
01-27-2017 | 05:52 AM
#106
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Bartels deserves a fair shot because he won the election. He deserves to be judged on his results because he knows that's part of the deal. Same goes for our LEC reps. If they screw the pooch, they know they're accountable to us.
Circling back to the C44 recall effort, it doesn't appear to be based upon any specific malfeasance or behavior. That's bad.
With LEC elections held every year, and the most-recent MEC election being determined by 1 vote, any alleged "laughter" is probably based more on uncertainty than preference.
01-27-2017 | 07:01 AM
#107
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This must be bait. But, I'll bite anyway.
What's NWA bravado? And how does it get to be at its best?
01-27-2017 | 07:22 AM
#108
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That's too bad. Recalls without a "cause" that can be documented and passes the smell test are dumb.
Wait a minute. Are you saying that the "new guard" are more enlightened than the "old guard"?
[...]
Circling back to the C44 recall effort, it doesn't appear to be based upon any specific malfeasance or behavior. That's bad.
Wait a minute. Are you saying that the "new guard" are more enlightened than the "old guard"?
[...]
Circling back to the C44 recall effort, it doesn't appear to be based upon any specific malfeasance or behavior. That's bad.
While I suppose it's obvious which side I'm on, I told Jimmy directly at the meeting that even if I thought he (& Chris) was the worst rep ever, I would still vote against the recall because it's an improper exercise of a very important membership check on reps. That opinion was solidified with recall motions utterly lacking in substance.
01-27-2017 | 07:31 AM
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Got it. Somehow I read that thought into your post. My bad.
I agree with you. You were there, and if you didn't hear anything approaching abuse of office, it's a dumb move to recall them.
Thanks again.
While I suppose it's obvious which side I'm on, I told Jimmy directly at the meeting that even if I thought he (& Chris) was the worst rep ever, I would still vote against the recall because it's an improper exercise of a very important membership check on reps. That opinion was solidified with recall motions utterly lacking in substance.
Thanks again.
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