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01-27-2017 | 02:46 PM
#121
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BB hasn't done anything to effect me negatively. From what I've heard he's a top notch pilot advocate and you wouldn't want anybody else as your rep if you have to do a carpet dance. He has my full support now he's elected. It's just my opinion that 44 needs to go with more reasonable FO reps don't have to be in lockstep with the Capt reps but at least on the same page.
01-27-2017 | 03:05 PM
#122
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This is not about the merger. My earlier NWA comment wrongly alluded to that and I take it back. This is about the approach going forward. IMO the current MEC tends to be overly militant. The old guard tended to go overboard with proactive engagement. JM seems to hit in between both extremes perfectly. Firm but reasonable using scientific methods. As do the 44 Capt Reps.
BB hasn't done anything to effect me negatively. From what I've heard he's a top notch pilot advocate and you wouldn't want anybody else as your rep if you have to do a carpet dance. He has my full support now he's elected. It's just my opinion that 44 needs to go with more reasonable FO reps don't have to be in lockstep with the Capt reps but at least on the same page.
BB hasn't done anything to effect me negatively. From what I've heard he's a top notch pilot advocate and you wouldn't want anybody else as your rep if you have to do a carpet dance. He has my full support now he's elected. It's just my opinion that 44 needs to go with more reasonable FO reps don't have to be in lockstep with the Capt reps but at least on the same page.
01-27-2017 | 03:15 PM
#123
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Of course I support him now he's the MEC Chair. How he got the votes is an internal C44 issue that hopefully 44 get cleaned up but now that he's there I hope he is successful. This really is about 44 being properly represented. The FO reps don't make the cut IMO. C44 peeps ask around. Plenty of folks who voted no to TA1 and oppose the old guard want the FO reps gone ASAP
01-27-2017 | 03:20 PM
#124
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From: Poodle Whisperer
This is not about the merger. My earlier NWA comment wrongly alluded to that and I take it back. This is about the approach going forward. IMO the current MEC tends to be overly militant. The old guard tended to go overboard with proactive engagement. JM seems to hit in between both extremes perfectly. Firm but reasonable using scientific methods. As do the 44 Capt Reps.
BB hasn't done anything to effect me negatively. From what I've heard he's a top notch pilot advocate and you wouldn't want anybody else as your rep if you have to do a carpet dance. He has my full support now he's elected. It's just my opinion that 44 needs to go with more reasonable FO reps don't have to be in lockstep with the Capt reps but at least on the same page.
BB hasn't done anything to effect me negatively. From what I've heard he's a top notch pilot advocate and you wouldn't want anybody else as your rep if you have to do a carpet dance. He has my full support now he's elected. It's just my opinion that 44 needs to go with more reasonable FO reps don't have to be in lockstep with the Capt reps but at least on the same page.
Well, that's a schizophrenic post if I've ever seen one.
01-27-2017 | 03:31 PM
#125
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I'll take back NWA bravado. Replace it with BB/Strong 12 style tactics. Very militant, very skeptical, yields little results in the way of gains. Poggi, Kern and Johnson are in this camp.
Meanwhile you have John Malone, and the CA Reps who have a proven track record of success. These are the type of reps I desire in 44. Not Bartel Cartel Storm Troopers.
Meanwhile you have John Malone, and the CA Reps who have a proven track record of success. These are the type of reps I desire in 44. Not Bartel Cartel Storm Troopers.
01-27-2017 | 03:42 PM
#126
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There's no way we are going back to the Moakist regime.
Curly and his buddies will just have to live with Bartels.
The old gang has always been able to stack ATL LEC meetings.
A council-wide vote is a whole different ball game.
Johnson and Kern will win in a landslide.
01-27-2017 | 03:52 PM
#127
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You couldn't be more wrong.
There's no way we are going back to the Moakist regime.
Curly and his buddies will just have to live with Bartels.
The old gang has always been able to stack ATL LEC meetings.
A council-wide vote is a whole different ball game.
Johnson and Kern will win in a landslide.
There's no way we are going back to the Moakist regime.
Curly and his buddies will just have to live with Bartels.
The old gang has always been able to stack ATL LEC meetings.
A council-wide vote is a whole different ball game.
Johnson and Kern will win in a landslide.
Kind of ironic that the guy who presented the recall motion is one of the more impressionable and bumbling individuals I know. He tried to sell the failed TA hard. Just wanting to be accepted by the old guard types...
01-27-2017 | 03:52 PM
#128
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This is not about the merger. My earlier NWA comment wrongly alluded to that and I take it back. This is about the approach going forward. IMO the current MEC tends to be overly militant. The old guard tended to go overboard with proactive engagement. JM seems to hit in between both extremes perfectly. Firm but reasonable using scientific methods. As do the 44 Capt Reps.
BB hasn't done anything to effect me negatively. From what I've heard he's a top notch pilot advocate and you wouldn't want anybody else as your rep if you have to do a carpet dance. He has my full support now he's elected. It's just my opinion that 44 needs to go with more reasonable FO reps don't have to be in lockstep with the Capt reps but at least on the same page.
BB hasn't done anything to effect me negatively. From what I've heard he's a top notch pilot advocate and you wouldn't want anybody else as your rep if you have to do a carpet dance. He has my full support now he's elected. It's just my opinion that 44 needs to go with more reasonable FO reps don't have to be in lockstep with the Capt reps but at least on the same page.
What percentage of C44 pilots do you think would have preferred Malone over Bartells? Was is so overwhelming that their vote for MEC Chairman was egregious?
Like was it 100% of ATL based pilots wanted Malone as Chairman?
01-27-2017 | 04:31 PM
#130
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From: 5-9 block, kill removing
This is not about the merger. My earlier NWA comment wrongly alluded to that and I take it back. This is about the approach going forward. IMO the current MEC tends to be overly militant. The old guard tended to go overboard with proactive engagement. JM seems to hit in between both extremes perfectly. Firm but reasonable using scientific methods. As do the 44 Capt Reps.
BB hasn't done anything to effect me negatively. From what I've heard he's a top notch pilot advocate and you wouldn't want anybody else as your rep if you have to do a carpet dance. He has my full support now he's elected. It's just my opinion that 44 needs to go with more reasonable FO reps don't have to be in lockstep with the Capt reps but at least on the same page.
BB hasn't done anything to effect me negatively. From what I've heard he's a top notch pilot advocate and you wouldn't want anybody else as your rep if you have to do a carpet dance. He has my full support now he's elected. It's just my opinion that 44 needs to go with more reasonable FO reps don't have to be in lockstep with the Capt reps but at least on the same page.
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