Ta 2017
10-05-2017, 07:26 PM
#251
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The company can give the new guys an extra $10,000 without giving the rest of us anything. They'll be making more 1st year than captains we're not that long ago. Tell me again how bad they have it.
I'm pretty cynical about this place and airlines in general, but this TA is a better deal than what we have now for most people here. The cuts for us lazy people that try to work as little as possible aren't as bad as what I anticipated. Lock in sorta permanent-ish rates, they're better than a temporary bonus. What do I know though? I'll get back to walking uphill both ways to school barefoot in the snow.
I'm pretty cynical about this place and airlines in general, but this TA is a better deal than what we have now for most people here. The cuts for us lazy people that try to work as little as possible aren't as bad as what I anticipated. Lock in sorta permanent-ish rates, they're better than a temporary bonus. What do I know though? I'll get back to walking uphill both ways to school barefoot in the snow.
I came on here expecting something different from you.
10-05-2017, 07:34 PM
#252
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We may disagree on the semantics defining pay, but I'm with you about pay rates being better than a bonus. This is a good package. It's not perfect and we should get more, but it's a much better deal than what we have now and deserves our support. I'll be interested to see what other airlines do to one-up us if this goes through
10-05-2017, 07:36 PM
#253
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We may disagree on the semantics defining pay, but I'm with you about pay rates being better than a bonus. This is a good package. It's not perfect and we should get more, but it's a much better deal than what we have now and deserves our support. I'll be interested to see what other airlines do to one-up us if this goes through
10-05-2017, 07:55 PM
#255
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Those of you who think this TA just really benefits the "Old Guys"... Remember... Whatever airline you chose, select it like you might retire there... Because you just might ask those at Eagle on 9/11...
Im only a first year at EDV... But have had a long enough career to see the best hopes and desires destroyed by our fickle "industry"
There are a lot of folks here who thought they were gonna be somewhere else by now... I even knew a few of them when we were all under 21, footloose and fancy free.
Im only a first year at EDV... But have had a long enough career to see the best hopes and desires destroyed by our fickle "industry"
There are a lot of folks here who thought they were gonna be somewhere else by now... I even knew a few of them when we were all under 21, footloose and fancy free.
10-05-2017, 07:59 PM
#256
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Seriously this TA is not a bad deal. Is there room for improvement? There always is room for improvement and they could come in the future in the form of LOAs. I say we ought to vote this in. Then I f the pilot market is as strong as everyone says it is, continual improvements are inevitable. By voting no are the extra enhancements we could theoretically get worth the gamble of what we are already being offered?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lIhsgIOAP9Q
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lIhsgIOAP9Q
10-05-2017, 08:33 PM
#257
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Seriously this TA is not a bad deal. Is there room for improvement? There always is room for improvement and they could come in the future in the form of LOAs. I say we ought to vote this in. Then I f the pilot market is as strong as everyone says it is, continual improvements are inevitable. By voting no are the extra enhancements we could theoretically get worth the gamble of what we are already being offered?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lIhsgIOAP9Q
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lIhsgIOAP9Q
10-05-2017, 08:49 PM
#258
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We had 89 LOA's with the last contract. I'm not sure I'll take your advice to vote on a contract as though I live in the land of make believe and that it will remain unchanged for the next 7 years.
10-05-2017, 08:53 PM
#259
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10-06-2017, 03:14 AM
#260
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I understand, and agree with you. I may be new to the regionals, but I’m not new at life. The TA as it is written isn’t really good for me personally, but I can see how it benefits the more senior folks. And while I hope I am not here long enough to really see any benefits from it, I will most likely vote yes because it benefits the majority.
But I still think EDV has been leading the pack for a while now, and will continue to do so.
But I still think EDV has been leading the pack for a while now, and will continue to do so.
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