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Delta displacement bid
I noticed this post on reddit (r/flying). It was posted on May 31. The author, https://www.reddit.com/user/aviator147/ , is a 27 year old Delta A220 FO, formerly a regional pilot on the E175.
DELTA Massive Displacement Bid Posted
Delta's Surplus Bid was awarded just a short time ago. Roughly 2300 pilots now have no aircraft assignment as there weren't enough positions.
The Most Junior Captain on property now is a 2001 Hire. Prior to this bid, the most junior captain was a 2018 hire.
Total Displacements per this bid are 6,964. Would like to point out this is not a projected furlough number.
Crazy Times. This displacement is MASSIVE. The training churn predicted is in the thousands of training events. The belief among the ranks right now is that there's no way they can pull this bid off with the amount of training required. Time will tell soon, but this is just a wild day.
The geographic implications for some of those displaced is crazy. Seattle based 330 pilots getting displaced to the 737 in NYC.
The amount of Mandatory displacements as-well mean that all those pilots won't be "seat locked" when eventually another bid comes and there will be more movement, not to mention if they decide to add some pilots back from the Unassigned category back to an active position.
As stated before, the training with this bid would potentially take years. 90% of the 220 Fleet FOs alone are now being Un-Assigned. The company has the ability to cancel the bid, or award positions back that people can be reinstated from the Un-Assigned Pool. Being Un-Assigned or "UNA" means you get paid at the lowest airframe rate at FO pay. So B717 FO Pay, at your year of longevity for 72 Hours per Month/Bid Period. There is no commitment to the company as a UNA.
Delta's Surplus Bid was awarded just a short time ago. Roughly 2300 pilots now have no aircraft assignment as there weren't enough positions.
The Most Junior Captain on property now is a 2001 Hire. Prior to this bid, the most junior captain was a 2018 hire.
Total Displacements per this bid are 6,964. Would like to point out this is not a projected furlough number.
Crazy Times. This displacement is MASSIVE. The training churn predicted is in the thousands of training events. The belief among the ranks right now is that there's no way they can pull this bid off with the amount of training required. Time will tell soon, but this is just a wild day.
The geographic implications for some of those displaced is crazy. Seattle based 330 pilots getting displaced to the 737 in NYC.
The amount of Mandatory displacements as-well mean that all those pilots won't be "seat locked" when eventually another bid comes and there will be more movement, not to mention if they decide to add some pilots back from the Unassigned category back to an active position.
As stated before, the training with this bid would potentially take years. 90% of the 220 Fleet FOs alone are now being Un-Assigned. The company has the ability to cancel the bid, or award positions back that people can be reinstated from the Un-Assigned Pool. Being Un-Assigned or "UNA" means you get paid at the lowest airframe rate at FO pay. So B717 FO Pay, at your year of longevity for 72 Hours per Month/Bid Period. There is no commitment to the company as a UNA.
Last edited by ComanchePilot; 06-01-2020 at 04:44 PM. Reason: format
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I noticed this post on reddit (r/flying). It was posted on May 31. The author, https://www.reddit.com/user/aviator147/ , is a 27 year old Delta A220 FO, formerly a regional pilot on the E175.
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I work for one of these stations, and we are seeing how things are looking for the future.
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