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Old 12-08-2020, 07:36 AM
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So what should happen to Endeavor in that scenario? Delta shuts Endeavor down, ends all regional contracts. Then restructures there pay scale to include CRJ and ERJ, then hires new pilots for those positions?
Their pay scale already includes RJs. There's no reason to bring us in house. They get a good product from us in the customer service scores and our most expensive captain is cheaper than a 2nd year FO at Delta.
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Old 12-08-2020, 10:32 AM
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“We could potentially see pilot hiring in the second half of 2021”. - JM, 12/8 Town Hall
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Old 12-08-2020, 10:42 AM
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“We could potentially see pilot hiring in the second half of 2021”. - JM, 12/8 Town Hall
Thats it flow to delta is confirmed!!!!RDU base is next!
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Old 12-08-2020, 01:56 PM
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Thats it flow to delta is confirmed!!!!RDU base is next!
I'd love an rdu base... But then I'd love for it to possibly be 1 leg commute 😂
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Old 12-10-2020, 09:52 AM
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That is another topic and one that I don’t have the answers to. I simply stated that all flying at Delta (and the other majors for that matter) should all be done by mainline seniority list pilots. The notion that a Delta or United pilot is too good for an RJ or that a 1500 hour CFI couldn’t handle a A330 with proper training is BS. That is my point.
You’re right it took me a couple of times to see “your angle” on this topic. I would just say this, be careful what you wish for.

For those who want to move on, I’d be more focused on increased opportunities to move on to the mainline lifestyle, and less on “Flow”.

Ask those American regionals how that so called “flow” is working out for them.
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Old 12-13-2020, 06:46 AM
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That would be considered a flow with zero outside hiring at mainline. Do you honestly think that has any chance, any. Delta management has nothing great to say about the first original flow from Compass.

You’re obviously one of the those orange lanyard “progress” guys. Listen as a former regional guy myself I get it, but Delta firmly stands on vetting their own new hires.

Why? Because you have individuals at regionals with some serious “skeletons” that slipped into easier hiring requirements OR picked up some “skeletons” while employed.

I heard specifically Endeavor has some guys with DUI’s or felonies that with a seniority list as you stated would be eventually flying Dreamliners around the world.

Yeah absolutely not.
You say that like Delta doesn't have any ******* heads on there seniority list. GMAFB.
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Old 12-13-2020, 08:13 AM
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You say that like Delta doesn't have any ******* heads on there seniority list. GMAFB.
Delta HR doesn’t look to employ pilots with seniority numbers already at Delta, they employ pilots without them. Needless to say, if you decided to pick up a fairly serious “skeleton” while already employed at big daddy D, you chose the right time.

I was referring to the potential flow that your airline was specifically in pursuit of. I was told multiple times Delta wanted nothing to do with it, why? The guys and gals mostly on the more senior side of the EDV seniority list with some serous skeletons.
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Old 12-13-2020, 09:38 AM
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Delta HR doesn’t look to employ pilots with seniority numbers already at Delta, they employ pilots without them. Needless to say, if you decided to pick up a fairly serious “skeleton” while already employed at big daddy D, you chose the right time.

I was referring to the potential flow that your airline was specifically in pursuit of. I was told multiple times Delta wanted nothing to do with it, why? The guys and gals mostly on the more senior side of the EDV seniority list with some serous skeletons.
“Skeletons” as you say aren’t necessarily age or seniority related. Yes, it’s true that there maybe a higher percentage towards the upper end of the seniority list. But that’s partly because Delta already sorted through them twice with the SSP interviews. And btw, the also passed over a lot of good pilots without those so called “skeletons.” But what’s to say that they can’t revise the hiring process at Endeavor and say from this point forward you can flow if you meet certain criteria?
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“Skeletons” as you say aren’t necessarily age or seniority related. Yes, it’s true that there maybe a higher percentage towards the upper end of the seniority list. But that’s partly because Delta already sorted through them twice with the SSP interviews. And btw, the also passed over a lot of good pilots without those so called “skeletons.” But what’s to say that they can’t revise the hiring process at Endeavor and say from this point forward you can flow if you meet certain criteria?
I’m willing to bet everything I have there are individuals who’ve interviewed with Delta who were substantially more qualified than I was, I’m not arrogant, welcome to life, you clearly just want a free ride to Delta, good luck with that.

Delta wasn’t my first choice, I didn’t want to commute. I made it all the way through the United interview to the final step, which was the HR portion, received a TBNT letter a week later, welcome to life.

Dream airline was American, did everything I could to get an interview, no call. Welcome to life.

It’s a running joke at mainline when we talk to each other about this subject, it’s rare any of us end up at the airline we want.

Throw your orange lanyards in the garbage, turn your apps in everywhere, and continue building a resume.

I’d love to see more passion from the pilot group on a flow to endeavor through a university, no interview. Since you’re so passionate about “progress”.
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Old 12-13-2020, 10:59 AM
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I’m willing to bet everything I have there are individuals who’ve interviewed with Delta who were substantially more qualified than I was, I’m not arrogant, welcome to life, you clearly just want a free ride to Delta, good luck with that.

Delta wasn’t my first choice, I didn’t want to commute. I made it all the way through the United interview to the final step, which was the HR portion, received a TBNT letter a week later, welcome to life.

Dream airline was American, did everything I could to get an interview, no call. Welcome to life.

It’s a running joke at mainline when we talk to each other about this subject, it’s rare any of us end up at the airline we want.

Throw your orange lanyards in the garbage, turn your apps in everywhere, and continue building a resume.

I’d love to see more passion from the pilot group on a flow to endeavor through a university, no interview. Since you’re so passionate about “progress”.
Wow, maybe not arrogant? I will certainly question that from your reply though. I also will question your level of reading comprehension. Where in my post did I infer that I wanted a free ride? My post was simply a response to yours that points to the top end of our seniority list having people with bad skeletons. And how did you perceive that I’m “passionate about progress?” Additionally, I’m 61 years old, and I’m also very aware how life works, thank you. Second career for me, and I’m more than happy where I am.
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