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Old 05-02-2021, 02:31 PM
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It’s gotta be just good enough to keep people around to stay. Getting pilots to wait 6-7 years for a flow instead of an LCC in 3 is the goal.
Would be nice if they started publishing attrition numbers again
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Old 05-02-2021, 02:38 PM
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It’s gotta be just good enough to keep people around to stay. Getting pilots to wait 6-7 years for a flow instead of an LCC in 3 is the goal.
If your pilot group gets any type of flow it’s beneficial for you the pilot’s and not Delta one bit. What will happen is the likes of UA and solid LCC’s like SWA will try to pick off 9E pilots. Anyone with a solid resume will leave before the flow and DL gets stuck with the “misfits” who couldn’t get a job better than 9E.
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Old 05-02-2021, 02:49 PM
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If your pilot group gets any type of flow it’s beneficial for you the pilot’s and not Delta one bit. What will happen is the likes of UA and solid LCC’s like SWA will try to pick off 9E pilots. Anyone with a solid resume will leave before the flow and DL gets stuck with the “misfits” who couldn’t get a job better than 9E.
Misfits often have a hard time making it through training or probation. Any number of stories. Anecdotally, the RJ people I know getting calls at LCCs right now are the one with no degree, checkride busts, etc. Less likely to leave to a legacy when hiring is in swing.
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Old 05-02-2021, 02:53 PM
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Misfits often have a hard time making it through training or probation. Any number of stories. Anecdotally, the RJ people I know getting calls at LCCs right now are the one with no degree, checkride busts, etc. Less likely to leave to a legacy when hiring is in swing.
Oh BULL****
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Oh BULL****
Lol, I’ll take it from you who was claiming flow would never happen just a few weeks ago.
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Old 05-02-2021, 03:52 PM
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So is a flow where guys who have been here for 3 years are going to wait at least another 4-5 years to flow better than the DGI. Hopefully we didn't play ourselves.
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Old 05-02-2021, 03:53 PM
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If your pilot group gets any type of flow it’s beneficial for you the pilot’s and not Delta one bit. What will happen is the likes of UA and solid LCC’s like SWA will try to pick off 9E pilots. Anyone with a solid resume will leave before the flow and DL gets stuck with the “misfits” who couldn’t get a job better than 9E.
What a condescending statement.
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Old 05-02-2021, 04:08 PM
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What a condescending statement.
It’s the truth, DL is big on clean records, less on flight time, majority of those at 9E meeting that criteria will be hired before any potential flow or picked off. Motivated individuals won’t wait around for a flow.
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Old 05-02-2021, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN View Post
It’s the truth, DL is big on clean records, less on flight time, majority of those at 9E meeting that criteria will be hired before any potential flow or picked off. Motivated individuals won’t wait around for a flow.
That may especially be the casein the next few years if the return of business flying is as drawn out - or at permanently lower levels - as some people are predicting:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/17/will-business-travel-return-with-covid-vaccine-executives-are-split.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-1...es-11610879401

https://www.forbes.com/sites/benbaldanza/2020/12/01/new-study-estimates-up-to-36-of-airline-business-travel-wont-return/
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Old 05-02-2021, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN View Post
It’s the truth, DL is big on clean records, less on flight time, majority of those at 9E meeting that criteria will be hired before any potential flow or picked off. Motivated individuals won’t wait around for a flow.
Uh DL is big on owning up to failure and showing how you can learn from it (Yes, I know that statement does not apply to DL management, only all other employees). I was an off the street hire at Delta from 9E in 2019 with a sub 3.0 GPA and multiple checkride failures. I never lied about anything, showed all my flaws but also showed all my strengths and still made it here. Let's also be real, if Delta doesn't want someone here, they won't be here. There is still gonna a probation period and I bet if a flow even happens 9E folks will be under a microscope their first year.
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