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04-11-2022, 06:38 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
So, if you interview OTS to Delta right now from DCI, you are looking at a 1 year hold back to class. What happens if you quit, is the CJO invalid, are you still forced to wait a year?
04-12-2022, 03:10 AM
#42
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
The flow was part of the LOA 9 requirements for the extra 35 RJ's. The 9E union would get DFR'd if it allowed a flow back, but only career advancement for those that haven't interviewed before.(Delta's original request)
04-12-2022, 04:38 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by PadraicPearse
Where are those 35 aircraft going and who will fly them? If the industry is short of pilots, now what?
04-12-2022, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
They’re not new aircraft. They’re the formerly Compass 175s, now spread between OO and YX.
04-12-2022, 08:46 AM
#45
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Do they come with their own CAs? Or do the CAs already at Endeavor have to delay their flow to DL another 35,000 x 6 hours to give time to mature enough FOs to upgrade eligible to staff them? Because every new aircraft is going to require 6 new CAs and the regionals are all short on them right now. Look at the DEC bonuses being offered.
Again, these aren’t new aircraft. They are already on the certificates of OO and RP. All this was in the works pre-covid. Planes were moved and flown, DALPA grieved the 35 aircraft and the arbitrator made DL park 35 planes. With the flow deal at 9E, the max number of 76 seat jets flown at Delta Connection is back up by 35, just in time for the Captain Crunch (did I just name the current regional environment?!) to prevent said aircraft from actually taking to the skies.
04-13-2022, 09:40 AM
#47
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Originally Posted by PadraicPearse
Retirement age going up. 67 1/2 or even 70, maybe until you can no longer hold a 1st Class medical.
Hiring slows down, for sure and then this industry begins to suck once again.
Hiring slows down, for sure and then this industry begins to suck once again.
04-13-2022, 09:41 AM
#48
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Originally Posted by PadraicPearse
Retirement age going up. 67 1/2 or even 70, maybe until you can no longer hold a 1st Class medical.
Hiring slows down, for sure and then this industry begins to suck once again.
Hiring slows down, for sure and then this industry begins to suck once again.
04-13-2022, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JonGoodsell764
So you think the senior pilots who’ve already had the chance to interview at Delta(some multiple times) and were told no deserve a direct line to Delta over someone who hasn’t interviewed at all?
I hate to break it to you but flying a painted RJ does not make you qualified to fly at a legacy. Flying a plane is flying a plane, it’s not that hard. People who’ve taken the steps to go above and beyond the bare minimum are getting lost in the mix because the 9E union has decided everyone deserves a seat at the table. There’s reasons someone stays at a regional for 20+ years and it should never have been up to the union to get them to the next level.
I hate to break it to you but flying a painted RJ does not make you qualified to fly at a legacy. Flying a plane is flying a plane, it’s not that hard. People who’ve taken the steps to go above and beyond the bare minimum are getting lost in the mix because the 9E union has decided everyone deserves a seat at the table. There’s reasons someone stays at a regional for 20+ years and it should never have been up to the union to get them to the next level.
04-13-2022, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PadraicPearse
Retirement age going up. 67 1/2 or even 70, maybe until you can no longer hold a 1st Class medical.
Hiring slows down, for sure and then this industry begins to suck once again.
Hiring slows down, for sure and then this industry begins to suck once again.
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