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bonesbrigade 10-12-2013 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1500725)
What pilot with an ATP and 1500 hrs would want to come to Endeavor? It's a deadend because Delta needs to park the 50 seaters in order for the 717 transition to happen. The DALPA contract clearly caps the 50 seaters at 125. While the actual fleet plan may change in terms of when the planes are parked the end state is still all 50 seaters gone and 81 CR9s only. So what FO wants to come to career stagnation? It isn't the pay. Bases? Compass offers the same and they actually have CAs that will be going to Delta guaranteed via flow and not some SSP crap. I still cannot see any reason(s) why any ATP/1500 hr pilot would come to Endeavor when there are so many better options all of whom are desperate.

What airline with any credibility would keep you on the roster when they see how you abuse the social media policy. How do you type so much what with the adhan blaring five times daily?
Oh and quit sending me PMs blowing me because they go straight into the trash.

gojo 10-12-2013 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by pa28dakota (Post 1500631)
Cautious optimist here, but there could be a revised fleet plan by years end...there's lots of chatter about that. Also, Endeavor was at the recent Riddle Career Expo and numbers were circulating of wanting to attract 100-200 new hires beginning Q1 2014. It's all rumor though so we know how that goes.

Hmmm, I doubt it. It could be me though as I have become very skeptical when it comes to "good rumors" regarding Endeavor. I sometimes feel that these rumors are started only to keep us interested and slow attrition. My advice is to get out asap.

CarolinaAngler 10-12-2013 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by fatsopilot (Post 1500718)
No I don't, I work for a 2nd tier major but can't let this place go so I come on here to stir things up.

Pinnacle Airlines, Inc. Reaches Tentative Agreement with Air Line Pilots Association -- MEMPHIS, Tenn., Dec. 17, 2012 /PRNewswire/ --

2-3 years = 2014-2015. What is your point? Am I credible poster now because what I posted was backed up by an official press release? And do you have a point you are trying to prove? If so you aren't doing a very good job.

My point was no where does it officially say that we are losing our planes by the end of '14 which was the backbone for the reasoning in your post. I could quote the union email that says the end of '15, but then you would rebute. I can see it is impossible to post here without someone getting argumentative and defensive. But since your objective is to "stir things up" I'll bow out and won't give in to this nonsense. Carry on.

ShyGuy 10-12-2013 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by bonesbrigade (Post 1500830)
What airline with any credibility would keep you on the roster when they see how you abuse the social media policy. How do you type so much what with the adhan blaring five times daily?
Oh and quit sending me PMs blowing me because they go straight into the trash.

Yeah wow it doesn't take much for you to go over the ledge does it. I did not abuse any policy with what I wrote above.

MachJ 10-12-2013 05:51 PM

Wow. Keep it classy guys

Past V1 10-12-2013 05:53 PM


Wow. Keep it classy guys
Nice try...but I think we lost the "class" on page 1

ShyGuy 10-12-2013 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by MachJ (Post 1500889)
Wow. Keep it classy guys

It gets worse. bonesbrigade reported my APC posts straight to my Chief Pilot in what I assume was an attempt to get me fired. Didn't call/private message me beforehand, didn't go through Pro-Standards. There are all sorts of pilots out there but the backstabbers are the worst.

anthony210 10-12-2013 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1500892)
It gets worse. bonesbrigade reported my APC posts straight to my Chief Pilot in what I assume was an attempt to get me fired. Didn't call/private message me beforehand, didn't go through Pro-Standards. There are all sorts of pilots out there but the backstabbers are the worst.

I don't mind your posts as much as some other do. But when you write stuff on the boards that ****es a bunch of people off, some might be willing to go the extra mile to try and harm you in the real world. This why its best to use some restraint when posting on public boards, especially when everyone at your former airline knows who you are.

Not saying its right to do what that guy did but perhaps you should try not to **** off half of your former co workers with the stuff you post. Aviation is a small world, but I am sure you know that.

sandlapper223 10-12-2013 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1500892)
It gets worse. bonesbrigade reported my APC posts straight to my Chief Pilot in what I assume was an attempt to get me fired. Didn't call/private message me beforehand, didn't go through Pro-Standards. There are all sorts of pilots out there but the backstabbers are the worst.

First of all, this is F-ed up. Pro-Stans is a unionist intra-personnel conflict resolution between crews working the flight deck together, nothing else. Reporting APC posts to Mgt? That's low, and pathetic. SHY, don't know you, nor your plight, but to hear this if true, is shocking. Who are the people we call our peers? Our colleagues? Our friends? Backstabbing baby whiners? Who would do such a thing?

This message board is a forum, a vent outlet, an entertainment source, a "tabloid" for airline goobers -- at best.

I've seen your posts, and others' who seem to be bothered by them; if someone actually ratted you out to your boss in an attempt to cause you harm with your employer that's just malicious. What would prompt someone to do such a thing?

How do we allow and foster such evil in our ranks? I certainly hope I don't find people like that in my pilot group.

N2Core 10-12-2013 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by sandlapper223 (Post 1500929)
First of all, this is F-ed up. Pro-Stans is a unionist intra-personnel conflict resolution between crews working the flight deck together, nothing else. Reporting APC posts to Mgt? That's low, and pathetic. SHY, don't know you, nor your plight, but to hear this if true, is shocking. Who are the people we call our peers? Our colleagues? Our friends? Backstabbing baby whiners? Who would do such a thing?

This message board is a forum, a vent outlet, an entertainment source, a "tabloid" for airline goobers -- at best.

I've seen your posts, and others' who seem to be bothered by them; if someone actually ratted you out to your boss in an attempt to cause you harm with your employer that's just malicious. What would prompt someone to do such a thing?

How do we allow and foster such evil in our ranks? I certainly hope I don't find people like that in my pilot group.

Well said. And I can't take it for gospel since it's all hearsay, but if that were true it would be all kinds of effed up.


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