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Mesabah 10-26-2013 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 1508291)
serious question: what's the current situation at endeavor? how many pilots leaving/month? mostly FO's? Is endeavor able to cover their current flying or are they at the point where they're giving flying back because they can't staff it?

Losing about 20-30 a month, but that should pick up even more as the SSP and flows leave. Right now they are downgrading captains to fill the right seat and for the reduction of CRJ200's.

spaaks 10-26-2013 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1508294)
Losing about 20-30 a month, but that should pick up even more as the SSP and flows leave. Right now they are downgrading captains to fill the right seat and for the reduction of CRJ200's.

How many 200's have they lost so far, how many/month are they scheduled to loose over, say, the next year?

Avroman 10-26-2013 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 1508291)
serious question: what's the current situation at endeavor? how many pilots leaving/month? mostly FO's? Is endeavor able to cover their current flying or are they at the point where they're giving flying back because they can't staff it?

As far as DTW has gone (the largest 200 base by far) Captains seem at to slightly below proper staffing (for a regional) FO.... HA good luck finding any. All hands on deck doesn't begin to describe the lack of FO's here at this point. That's what this type of BS pay will get you. And the latest round of downgrades will only prove to accelerate things.

profit 10-27-2013 06:13 AM

I can barely imagine why anyone would want to work here..

Bartok 10-27-2013 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 1508295)
How many 200's have they lost so far, how many/month are they scheduled to loose over, say, the next year?

I'd say a loose estimate of how many we lose is dependent on how much of a concession ASA takes to keep theirs.

New Guy 007 10-27-2013 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Windsor (Post 1507811)
If you value your friendship with "your friend" you will not help him in any way to get hired at the remnants of pinnacolaba.

I heard at the ORD job fair today, there were only 30..... yes only 30 people signed up for the regional job fair tomorrow.

Hi Windsor, have you heard from your buddy on a final figure on the number of folks who showed up for the ord job fair?

New Guy 007 10-27-2013 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by profit (Post 1508389)
I can barely imagine why anyone would want to work here..

Hey profit, If you live in base, are things really that bad? It can't be as a bad as XJT, also ,can you explain what this SSP is? Thanks.

mooney 10-27-2013 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by New Guy 007 (Post 1508440)
Hi Windsor, have you heard from your buddy on a final figure on the number of folks who showed up for the ord job fair?

I heard 30-40 but that's from a friend of a friend's cousin etc. so take it for what it's worth....

profit 10-27-2013 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by New Guy 007 (Post 1508451)
Hey profit, If you live in base, are things really that bad? It can't be as a bad as XJT, also ,can you explain what this SSP is? Thanks.

Life is relative. If you are commuting for Lakes or the like and can live in base for Pinnacolabeavor, it would definitely be a move up.

The new management may actually make the place work well, but it will take another year at least.

The pay scales are insulting (especially FO rates) and the future is uncertain. If they can't staff it, they could always shut it down.

The SSP is a pseudo-guaranteed Delta interview, with an abbreviated 1 day vs. 2 day interview process.

whataclub 10-27-2013 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by New Guy 007 (Post 1508451)
Hey profit, If you live in base, are things really that bad? It can't be as a bad as XJT, also ,can you explain what this SSP is? Thanks.

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe only people who were on the seniority list when the bridge agreement was signed are eligible for the SSP? Meaning any new hires would not be eligible for it so don't think you would have a fast track to Delta at Endeavor


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