Why I would not work at Endeavor...
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Because there aren't a million A&Ps willing to work for nothing.
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Aside from the Union dues which several have pointed out:
I'm pretty sure that not everyone who goes to work for Endeavor is married, therefore not everyone will be paying for insurance for a couple.
To only get $100 a month in per diem means you're only away from base for 59 hours. Pretty sure even on reserve you'd be gone more than that, especially if they're as short staffed on FOs as everyone says.
At some point you will be making more than guarantee. I don't know when that is, but at some point it will happen.
So, while your assertion that 1st year regional pay sucks (and I'm not disputing that) you could at least be a little more realistic. Whether or not you should go to work at Endeavor is a whole other question.
I'm pretty sure that not everyone who goes to work for Endeavor is married, therefore not everyone will be paying for insurance for a couple.
To only get $100 a month in per diem means you're only away from base for 59 hours. Pretty sure even on reserve you'd be gone more than that, especially if they're as short staffed on FOs as everyone says.
At some point you will be making more than guarantee. I don't know when that is, but at some point it will happen.
So, while your assertion that 1st year regional pay sucks (and I'm not disputing that) you could at least be a little more realistic. Whether or not you should go to work at Endeavor is a whole other question.
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There is a reason guys/gals are jumping the sinkingship not the flagship! What the union and company wont tell you! When you leave the company they are asking guys where they are going, many do not reply. Yes there are guys leaving on the CAPT side to United very very few at the moment since hiring is slowed down. Yes guys are going to the SSP but again it's slow. US Air has a few guys headed their way as well as jetblue and spirit. Other then that, that's it the numbers are small.
On the FO side I know of guys jumping to Compass, for instance a guy that was a 5 year FO at Pinnacle (Endeavor) Left last summer he now holds a better line then he did at Pinnacle. A few others who went to GO HO JET and have already upgraded.
In the first 3 months we lost 150 guys nearly half of what we lost for the total last year. A lot of them are FO's that finally realize there is no fleet plan! The numbers change everyday on what Delta wants, one day they say keep 200's next they say get rid of them! It's a game management will play as long as they can. If there are highly trained individuals that are willing to live on $1800 a month sit RSV they will do it. The hiring team has asked the pilots for suggestion on how to attract pilots because they CAN'T.
THE SSP is no where near a reason to come here, with more downgrades on the way and no fleet plan I would go else where.
Top Reason's
-YOU HAVE TO BE A CAPT TO BE IN THE SSP- NO UPGRADES IN SIGHT
-FO'S THAT HAVE BEEN HERE 5 YEARS ARE ON RSV (9 year capt's on RSV, 8 year capts getting displaced)
-MOST LIKELY WILL BE STUCK IN NYC FIRST FEW YEARS.
-NO TRUE FLEET PLAN
-WEAK CONTRACT - A PILOT GROUP WHO DRINKS THE KOOL-AID ( I VOTED NO)
-LOW PAY
(Side note the engines on the 200's are old think delta wants to replace them)
Endeavor =
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Dont have to be a factory working, high school drop out to meet/exceed this regional pay. With our fearless leader Obama and his $10.10 minimum wage push and all, at 40hrs a week thats a bare minimum of $1,616/month. Collecting shopping carts in the parking lot at your local Walmart and you're allllmmooosstttt at FO pay at the airlines!
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Dont have to be a factory working, high school drop out to meet/exceed this regional pay. With our fearless leader Obama and his $10.10 minimum wage push and all, at 40hrs a week thats a bare minimum of $1,616/month. Collecting shopping carts in the parking lot at your local Walmart and you're allllmmooosstttt at FO pay at the airlines!
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