You are probably right. I've just done years and years of the dci flying so have come in contact with mostly dl guys. And the majority seem like good guys. It's just the few guys that say I caused their furlough. I caused their base to close. I caused their merger, bankruptcy, etc... That puts a burr under my saddle.

 

DAL to Endeavor pilots:
I know you do the same job DAL pilots do flying DAL owned equipment but you cannot be part of a merger agreement because you are a regional pilot so we cannot afford you the same treatment NWA and Western Airline pilots received. You still need to take a test that they are not required to take because they took a different test at a different company. The difference between regional and mainline is just to vast.

Although Mesaba pilots had a flow agreement with NWA we choose NOT to honor that agreement but only allow a handful to flow. We will however continue to tell the public and customers that we are an honest company with integrity.

We will offer you an SSP to come to DAL if you wish but for those that may not make it through you can still be offered a management position at Endeavor or continue to fly DAL pax on DAL equipment and have the privilege to fly with those less senior that will flow to DAL.

Gee thanks Delta this all sounds great to me, may I have some more kool aid please.

 

DAL pilots and management have started negotiating another contract. It's high time that Delta pilots take back ALL of their flying under their contract. They made an excellent start in the right direction (based on total aircraft) but there is so much more to be done. Maybe something like, "If it says Delta on the side it has to be flown by a Delta pilot". Sounds reasonable right? They have the power to end the regional BS. Then again, having dirt cheap labor at the regional level increases the major airline's profit margin thereby going straight into a mainline pilot's pocket in the form of profit sharing. Yet we are "represented" by the same union? Bizarre industry to say the least.

 

It's a nice thought but at this time mainline is not in a position to recover contract flying.. The current fleet orders cover aircraft attrition with the exception of a few .... Ie the 321's

They cannot just upsize, because the competition is waiting to pull the hvc to their side with better scheds.

 

Sounds like UCAL or AA/UA would be a great fit for you..good luck..seriously.

If you get on with UCAL you might run into my bud who was furloughed from United right after 9/11..he got recalled to the CAL side 6 months ago.

He worked multiple jobs for over 13 years supporting his family waiting for his chance to come back. Like me, he won't say you stole his job, but I bet he says his furlough was extended as you replaced him for "years and years".

He's not as big of a jerk that I am..but I know he shares the "furloughed" attitude.

Seriously..not trying to throw any more punches..but understanding our side of the argument and the "furloughed attitude" can only help you in your future interview when you get the call.

Take it as you like..good luck with UCAL/AA.

 

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a merger to happen, and I definitely wouldn't pass up the SSP that's in front of you.

I just found out it's only a one day interview for 9E SSP's versus 2 days for everybody else...thats sounds like an awesome leg-up to me. Don't sweat the test and Kool-aid always tastes good going down. Haven't we all had enough of crap sandwiches for the last decade?

Good luck sir and I hope to see you at Delta..if you can't stomach the thought of having to take the test, good luck with whatever else comes your way.

 

Are you really comparing NWA and Western to Endeavor? You can't possibly be that delusional. If you have had your turn at the ssp and failed I understand why. NWA and Western were career airlines. You know and everyone else does too, that the regionals are stepping stones. Always have been. Most get out, some can't and a very few choose not too. Do you really think a new hire at NWA was at the same level professionally as a new hire at XJ or 9E? I can't speak for the Western pilots, but with the exception of the shrink(we had a sim), the NWA pilots were only hired after fairly vigorous testing (both psychological and knowledge based testing) very comparable to Delta's current testing. A regional job is an entry level pt 121 job, and in most cases the first airline job. The only difference is today instead of a 19-34 seat planes that most of us flew, y'all are flying one's with 76 seats.

 

I'd be willing to make a bet that Delta is the first airline job for most of the Delta pilots too.

 

Bartok do you still have a mancrush on me?

 

never mind