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Old 09-17-2014, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DMEarc View Post
What 9E needs to do is close MSP so those old, crusty, washed up Mesaba guys will have to try the SSP.

They are the problem. Comair 2.0 unless they can pick those guys off.
Original Pinnacle is the problem. Your former CEO killed the airline. By the time the Mesaba management came along to save the day it was too late.
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:08 PM
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The name of the thread is Think Twice about Endeavor. I, as do you, have all the right in the world to post on whichever forum you'd like. I pick this one because I also want to make sure everyone knows how crappy and horrible and stupid 9E is and to THINK TWICE about Endeavor. I am former Mesaba, not original Pinnacle, and rode the ride until 2013 so I know exactly how things are there. I also have many friends who are still there and tell me NOTHING has changed (actually gotten worse) and I speak to them often.
We know you're a 9E cheerleader. You're in denial and wish you could get out but can't. I feel bad for you and I hope you catch a break. Til then, I will keep coming back to make sure those considering 9E THINK TWICE about Endeavor.
I'm far from a 9E cheerleader, go read my old posts. And just like you I can get hired at any regional (which is nothing to be proud of), Compass has called me multiple times. But let me get this straight, you work for the company that started Go Jets and you come on here and lecture us about how bad 9E is? Let's see how things play out the next year and a half before declaring yourself a victor in the Regional airline pilot shuffle.
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Avroman View Post
I still work here, unfortunately, and yes, it's that bad... Get out and don't ever look back. I'm doing everything I can to leave with almost a decade in here.... even considering jumping to Compass and ExpressJet.. Just talked to a NetJets captain and that was very disheartening, as that was a place I was thinking about jumping as they have almost recalled everyone (most have said no)
You've been saying this for how long now? Wasn't it you that was saying 6 years ago Compass is just a shell of a company and would never go there? And now 6 years later you are thinking of making the jump? I've been following your posts on both forums now for numerous years, you are a lot of talk (and very little action).
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Survivor View Post
Things are not always what they seem...

For example, consider the following copy from the Endeavor website:

>>Pilots hired at Endeavor under the EtD Commitment will, upon becoming and remaining eligible under the provisions of the Endeavor-to-Delta Pilot Hiring and Commitment Program document, be hired as Delta pilots. As an EtD Commitment pilot, you will not be required to re-interview with Delta as your selection and screening by Endeavor and demonstrated performance thereafter will serve as your ticket to Delta. <<

"and demonstrted performance thereafter..."

What does that mean? Be good little boys and girls (don't make waves and/or stand up for your rights), and we'll put a word in for you at Delta.

There is NO GUARANTEE that you will get a Delta job if you work for Endeavor. NONE. What Endeavor is, is a litmus test to see if you are submissive enough to suck up at Delta later on.

What if you end up in the sim with some jerk and he or she puts an unsat on your PRIA record because he or she had a bad day? Bye, bye Delta.

All Endeavor is, is one big checkride.

Beware.
I'd rather be a submissive Delta pilot than a dominant regional pilot.
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:19 PM
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I'd rather be a submissive Delta pilot than a dominant regional pilot.

Funny thing about submissives, they usually end up in the position they asked for. I think in this case it may be called doggie style, but hey maybe delta will give you that reach around your hoping for.

I know I used a colorful analogy here and I'm not trying to pick on you, but what you must understand is flow can be like diamond jewelry. When the intentions of the giver are not pure, you become little more than the Ho in the equation.


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Old 09-17-2014, 01:23 PM
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Alaska, I accept you apology
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by AlaskaBound View Post
Original Pinnacle is the problem. Your former CEO killed the airline. By the time the Mesaba management came along to save the day it was too late.
LOL, I thought I would never hear someone say, "Jingle Pants to the rescue".
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Originally Posted by Mesabah View Post
LOL, I thought I would never hear someone say, "Jingle Pants to the rescue".
Lol, I remember how he got that nickname.
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Old 09-17-2014, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AlaskaBound View Post
The name of the thread is Think Twice about Endeavor. I, as do you, have all the right in the world to post on whichever forum you'd like. I pick this one because I also want to make sure everyone knows how crappy and horrible and stupid 9E is and to THINK TWICE about Endeavor. I am former Mesaba, not original Pinnacle, and rode the ride until 2013 so I know exactly how things are there. I also have many friends who are still there and tell me NOTHING has changed (actually gotten worse) and I speak to them often.
We know you're a 9E cheerleader. You're in denial and wish you could get out but can't. I feel bad for you and I hope you catch a break. Til then, I will keep coming back to make sure those considering 9E THINK TWICE about Endeavor.
Really? So you must go out of your way to play career counselor to people whom you never met, have no insight of their personal situation, on an anonymous forum? You left, move on.. Your as bad as shy guy. You guys sound like my buddy who is 32 and still talks about his touchdown he scored.......in high school.... Move on.
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Really? So you must go out of your way to play career counselor to people whom you never met, have no insight of their personal situation, on an anonymous forum? You left, move on.. Your as bad as shy guy. You guys sound like my buddy who is 32 and still talks about his touchdown he scored.......in high school.... Move on.
We are moving on.... To other majors, mid majors, regionals, and other career fields, leaving endeavor by the droves and masses. And for those who say its not true, well hey, you don't need to take my word for it. Just take a look at the seniority list from July 30th and then the updated one 17 days later (right around 35 pilots smaller). Pilot morale is made evident by which way our feet are moving, out the door.
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