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Old 03-10-2015, 08:56 PM
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Supposedly those came from a foreign carrier, not from endeavor.


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Old 03-11-2015, 05:01 AM
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I tried applying for sim instructor. But judging by all there Flight Ops updates and publications, they only hire Mesaba guys.
This seems unsubstantiated. I work in training and work with plenty of pre-merger Pinnacle guys. Ground and sim both have a mixture of guys from all three pre-merger groups.

For that matter the new Manager of Ground Training is a Pinnacle guy.
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:17 AM
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Are they still holding classes? I've been reading that training classes are being cancelled?
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:19 AM
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I tried applying for sim instructor. But judging by all there Flight Ops updates and publications, they only hire Mesaba guys.
I worked in the Standards dept for several years and I was original Pinnacle. Once Mesaba took the throne you could feel how they couldn't wait to get rid of anyone who was not Mesaba. I think that was evident in how they could not close the Mem sim center fast enough since it was a thorn in their side. I was under JB's thumb for a year and that was long enough. Their philosophy is- The Mesaba way is the only good way. If the pilot's performance doesn't meet the bar, lower the bar. TTP everything and give 200 hours of OE, they'll eventually get, even though they have been an FO on the A/c for 5years-. If you are original Pinnacle or Colgan you will automatically have a strike against you. Being in the training dept is a great addition to your resume but it does not come without the Marionette string attached. Good luck, hopefully YMMV
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Classes are still running, interviews still being offered.
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyRJ View Post
I worked in the Standards dept for several years and I was original Pinnacle. Once Mesaba took the throne you could feel how they couldn't wait to get rid of anyone who was not Mesaba. I think that was evident in how they could not close the Mem sim center fast enough since it was a thorn in their side. I was under JB's thumb for a year and that was long enough. Their philosophy is- The Mesaba way is the only good way. If the pilot's performance doesn't meet the bar, lower the bar. TTP everything and give 200 hours of OE, they'll eventually get, even though they have been an FO on the A/c for 5years-. If you are original Pinnacle or Colgan you will automatically have a strike against you. Good luck. Being in the training dept is a great addition to your resume but it does not come without the Marionette string attached.
And in MEM if you were original Mesaba or Colgan (especially if you were coming off the props) you had a strike against you if not two. That training department down there was the most unstandardized mess I've ever seen. It needed to be cleaned out. To say nothing of how hard it has become to get to MEM now.
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:29 AM
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[QUOTE=Avroman;1840821]Classes are still running, interviews still being offered.[/QUOTE

Okay then I must have read an old gouge. I don't believe there are any current gouges on Endeavors hiring process these days.

I will be flying up from Iah to Msp today for an interview tomorrow.

I'll post how it goes so new guys have something to go off of.
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Old 03-11-2015, 06:03 AM
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I worked in the Standards dept for several years and I was original Pinnacle. Once Mesaba took the throne you could feel how (they couldn't wait to get rid of anyone who was not Mesaba.) I think that was evident in how they could not close the Mem sim center fast enough since it was a thorn in their side. I was under JB's thumb for a year and that was long enough. Their philosophy is- (The Mesaba way is the only good way.) .... (If the pilot's performance doesn't meet the bar, lower the bar. TTP everything and give 200 hours of OE), (they'll eventually get it), even though they have been an FO on the A/c for 5years-. (If you are original Pinnacle or Colgan you will automatically have a strike against you). Being in the training dept is a great addition to your resume but it does not come without the Marionette string attached. Good luck, hopefully YMMV
1). Understandably so
2) Yes that sounds right
3) Interesting how Mesaba was the safest regional airline since it's inception and never had any fatalities. Pinnacle...not so much. I'm sure the bar was raised high enough with the Mesaba instructors
4) We all know the Pinnacle check airmen were milking the system. They'd keep us in the IOE system to maximize their checks.
5) That sounds about right. Standards needed to be kept high.
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Old 03-11-2015, 06:48 AM
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Are they still holding classes?I've been reading that training classes are being cancelled?
You're funny. Couldn't be farther from reality. You should share some of that crack you're smoking.
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Old 03-11-2015, 06:52 AM
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I worked in the Standards dept for several years and I was original Pinnacle. Once Mesaba took the throne you could feel how they couldn't wait to get rid of anyone who was not Mesaba. I think that was evident in how they could not close the Mem sim center fast enough since it was a thorn in their side. I was under JB's thumb for a year and that was long enough. Their philosophy is- The Mesaba way is the only good way. If the pilot's performance doesn't meet the bar, lower the bar. TTP everything and give 200 hours of OE, they'll eventually get, even though they have been an FO on the A/c for 5years-. If you are original Pinnacle or Colgan you will automatically have a strike against you. Being in the training dept is a great addition to your resume but it does not come without the Marionette string attached. Good luck, hopefully YMMV
I got asked in a Pinnacle oral, at what frequency does the stick shaker vibrate? He then preceded to draw a cosecant graph on the board. That whole northern Mississippi flying club was one giant face palm.
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