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Old 03-08-2015, 08:40 AM
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You actually believe that they are going to pay that money...that's cute.
Please explain to me your logic behind this post. Maybe you can explain the loophole, if there is one that would enable Delta to get out of this binding LOA
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It's not like he's the only one... I've met plenty of 7+ year Endeavor guys who have since left and feel the same way.
The predictions and hopes of the demise of 9E are misplaced.

They have one more major hurdle to make this the place to be and that is upgrade movement.

And I guess that as soon as they are convinced they can sustain hiring, they will announce the resolution to that problem.
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:26 AM
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I don't think anyone is hoping for your demise. I'm only regurgitating what I've heard from others. I think those bonuses are what actually scared many off. Seemed desperate on the part of Delta and I know many think it was just to keep the wheels on the bus until they can figure out other options.
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I don't think anyone is hoping for your demise. I'm only regurgitating what I've heard from others. I think those bonuses are what actually scared many off. Seemed desperate on the part of Delta and I know many think it was just to keep the wheels on the bus until they can figure out other options.
Because Delta kicked the dog too hard.

And there are many that are hoping for 9E's demise.
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:59 AM
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I don't think anyone is hoping for your demise. I'm only regurgitating what I've heard from others. I think those bonuses are what actually scared many off. Seemed desperate on the part of Delta and I know many think it was just to keep the wheels on the bus until they can figure out other options.
Well the stats show differently. Since the bonuses attrition has slowed and hiring more than tripled
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Old 03-08-2015, 10:28 AM
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Don’t you guys realize what Delta has effectively done with this 80k retention? They have given the endeavor pilots a raise! I don’t think it is coincidental that the bonus ends when the current pilot contract ends. They have recognized that part of the problem all airlines are having now is because of poor salaries at the regional level, and it has affected them because of the attrition, moral and the hard to find new hires.

As far as I understand it, at Endeavour there are aircraft that have been refurbished sitting in storage because there are no drivers. The more drivers they are able to attract, then more aircraft that will fly. The more aircraft flying the more captains that will be required, the more Capts required the more first officers hired and the cycle continues.

I know that there is a lot of hurt and disappointment with Pinnacle, Mesaba and Colgan, I hope however that there will be a change….and the morale will continue to improve. Ultimately all I want to see is all regionals have movement and better quality of life. We should no longer be abused for the love we have of flying and be properly compensated irrespective of the level we are flying at, as we all know an aircraft is an aircraft A380 to a Beech 1900 we all work hard and have families we need to feed. So lets all rally behind each other and work to getting the respect and compensation we all deserve.
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Old 03-08-2015, 10:59 AM
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attrition has come to a stand still. Not too many leaving right now. Delta is holding our SSP guys back until the end of the year then you will see the upgrade story...
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Old 03-08-2015, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by whoareyou311 View Post
attrition has come to a stand still. Not too many leaving right now. Delta is holding our SSP guys back until the end of the year then you will see the upgrade story...
Meanwhile more 200's are parked and more captains are downgraded...
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Old 03-08-2015, 11:35 PM
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Old 03-09-2015, 01:59 AM
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Endeavor is on the way up. Those that left last fall are regretting their decision. They will come in these boards and talk about all the reason why endeavor is a bad decision. This is all based on a tough experience they had, times have changed. Talking to 7yr first officers is misleading because they are really two years first officers who go unlucky to be in the wrong place when the music was paused for 5 years. The music is finally playing and Delta is trying hard to make Endeavor work. Delta is the most successful major right now. Might be a good thing for your aviation career to be at the company the most successful US airline is trying to make work.
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