theUpsideDown

You're confused because you see Crewtrac, which is pulling from Sabre. Sabre sees all. Crewtrac doesn't pull your A/C mx schedule, so it must not exist right? They aren't going to reprogram Crewtrac to show you three times is all. (as far as I've heard anyhow)

Swagship

Considering how many memos and emails they've sent out asking FOs to submit their flight times, I don't think they track squat.

theUpsideDown

They do, but RP wants you to do his work for him. You motivated young FO's can get that hour count together for him rather than sorting through the export file.

Blueskies21

Seems like you know a lot more about the process than I do.

Every letter of interpretation I've ever seen has come from the Office of the Chief Counsel of the FAA not from a Principal Operations Inspector of Flight Standard District Office. In fact, you can search ALL such Letters of Interpretation on the FAA's website.

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...terpretations/

If this is "Old ground" and "everyone's doing it" can you point me to an interpretation that says we can use block time for some things and flight time for others?

What about if a high mins Captain gets in an incident after landing above standard minds but below high mins at 95 hrs of flight time but 102 hrs of block time?

The FAA is going to look into that incident and say.... well this guy was high mins and he shouldn't have been attempting that approach.

Casual and UpsideDown; you may very well be right, it's possible this is all concern over nothing but it's also possible you're wrong and it isn't.

If something were to happen to one of our pilots, I'd prefer we had it in black and white from the FAA Office of the Chief Counsel BEFORE rather than AFTER the problem arises.

I guess that makes me overly cautious.

As you were.

theUpsideDown

I see what happened here. I see where i went wrong. I gave you the tools and also answered a few questions but you weren't looking for information. Otherwise you'd just call the numbers on the bottom of every memo already.

I'm changing it up. New strategy.

If i were you, I would call in sick for every trip until you get those answers. Get those answers now man! For the good of everyone and yourself, you better get on the phone to the FSDO now! What are you all doing just standing here? Go!

Swagship

He can crank away on his abacus and etch a sketch all day getting those vacancies done. I don't have anything to sweat, but the new folks will have a blast trying to decipher what gets reduced here, there, and everywhere to fight for their upgrade.

Blueskies21

Really helpful attitude.

I never asked you to solve anything for me, and I'm not so concerned about it to call in sick for trips.

I'm going to be fine. I guess I'll be logging flight time not block time.

I said, there could be a problem here, and raised a question.

You said, baselessly as far a I can tell, there's no problem, everything's fine.

Will it be fine? Maybe. Until it's not.

I've got plenty of options, I'll be fine. That may not be the case for everybody if, for some reason, this were not fine and it blew up in our faces as a result of an incident or accident.

I'll wait to see if it plays out and look through the letters of interpretation to see if there really IS one that covers this.

It must be nice to know everything and never have any doubts. When I was 25 I knew everything too, maybe you'll grow out of it. Or maybe you won't, some guys know everything forever.

theUpsideDown

Idk man, I'm worried. You should call now. I wouldn't go to work until you get answers. It's super important don't trust anything the company says, just make up what you want to do.
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Grownups don't have work conversations like this on a web board. Read the memos fully, the phone number to call is right on there. You're so far out of your element it's clear you need someone other than me to untwist (because I can't swear on here) your head. The company wants you're call, trust me, they want your head straightened out.

When I doubt a memo or misunderstand it, i call the number or i call standards and follow with an email for clarification. Assuming when a DO or the like speaks, you shut your mouth and learn, the company can straighten out your perplexing problem solving skills. If anyone should be calling, it is you.

theUpsideDown

And honest to God, it's great not being as lost in the weeds as you. It's eye opening these concerns and conversations are real and you wouldn't call the company and ATFQ.

Blueskies21

Haha. Thanks for your concern. As I said, I'll be fine.

I'll wait and see if we get any additional clarification from the Company and I'll look into how the tracking gets accomplished the next couple times I fly.

Is it a big deal today? Nope, just started. Will it be a big deal later? I don't know.

I don't think the Company or the POI or anyone else is intentionally lying to us, I'm just concerned there's an unintended consequence they didn't consider.

You disagree. That's fine.