Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
03-07-2019 | 08:37 AM
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03-07-2019 | 08:47 AM
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Definitely the biggest embarrassment ever seen. How can I even call myself an airline pilot? Oh the calamity! With just $2 day I could be saving van drivers everywhere. I guess I’ll call 1-800-TIP-DRVR
03-07-2019 | 09:05 AM
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It’s a personal choice. You carry cash because you want/need to. Other people don’t carry cash because they don’t want/need to. I’m not going to go out of my way to get cash just for the van driver. If I happen to have cash, I’ll give them $1. I’m not going to make my banking system more inconvenient and inefficient for tipping people. Which is is archaic and unrealistic. If people have to rely on gratuity to get by maybe their employers should pay them more and include the higher labor costs in the cost of goods and services.
In many things the US is stuck a century behind. Also, there’s no need for tip shaming lol.
In many things the US is stuck a century behind. Also, there’s no need for tip shaming lol.
03-07-2019 | 09:24 AM
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I think we should provide the van driver with an item from the snack basket.
03-07-2019 | 09:52 AM
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And yeah, there is a need for tip shaming, because attitudes like yours towards tipping makes us all look like *******s.
03-07-2019 | 09:56 AM
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Not carrying cash in 2019 is completely normal, and being in NYC for the majority of the month only attracts more attention to you when you pull out your metro card and have a wad of ones in there. Even if it's only a few dollars that's an easy steal for someone compared to my cards.
I agree tipping the van driver is good practice, but to shame someone because they didn't have ones on them, in this day and age, is absurd.
I agree tipping the van driver is good practice, but to shame someone because they didn't have ones on them, in this day and age, is absurd.
You're more likely to get jacked over your cellphone. You probably don't leave that at home.
Rochester or Albany over a few bucks? Sure. NYC? Nope.
03-07-2019 | 11:03 AM
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You know you're a pilot when you stay in hotels half the year and still think you don't need to carry cash. If the only option for tipping is cash, then you need to carry cash.
And yeah, there is a need for tip shaming, because attitudes like yours towards tipping makes us all look like *******s.
And yeah, there is a need for tip shaming, because attitudes like yours towards tipping makes us all look like *******s.
A couple trips ago I went to the hotel ATM and paid 4.50 to get cash just so I could tip the van driver because I didn't want to be THAT guy. If you want to be cheap and not tip the van driver, go ahead, it's no sweat off my back but don't pretend it's something else. You're cheap, that's fine but you're cheap, own it.
03-07-2019 | 11:08 AM
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Maybe you're right, maybe you're just cheap or maybe you don't take this whole thing very seriously. No idea, never met you but it's food for thought. What does not tipping tell other pilots about you?
03-07-2019 | 11:15 AM
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You joke about it but it could be indicative of your overall level of professionalism. You know it's generally expected as an Airline pilot, you don't do it. How many other things are there you know are expected that you don't do? Jeans on the jumpseat? Sure why not? Sterile cockpit? What's the big deal.
Maybe you're right, maybe you're just cheap or maybe you don't take this whole thing very seriously. No idea, never met you but it's food for thought. What does not tipping tell other pilots about you?
Maybe you're right, maybe you're just cheap or maybe you don't take this whole thing very seriously. No idea, never met you but it's food for thought. What does not tipping tell other pilots about you?
03-07-2019 | 11:22 AM
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How about nodding to other pilots in the terminal and introducing yourself at the gate, both etiquette that other pilots expect but aren't written in the FOM. Better?
Point being, there are things other pilots expect of us that aren't in the book. Are you required to do those things? No. But like it or not other pilots may judge you for it. Whether you care about their judgment is your choice.
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