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Old 03-07-2019 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21
Hmmm, alright maybe not terrific examples of etiquette because you're right, both of those are in the FOM.

How about nodding to other pilots in the terminal and introducing yourself at the gate, both etiquette that other pilots expect but aren't written in the FOM. Better?

Point being, there are things other pilots expect of us that aren't in the book. Are you required to do those things? No. But like it or not other pilots may judge you for it. Whether you care about their judgment is your choice.
Just because I don't embrace the American views on tipping culture doesn't mean that I go around being impolite or discourteous. By your logic we should be tipping everyone in the service industry. Van drivers for example are better paid than our flight attendants. Why don't we tip flight attendants, ramp agents, or anyone who is just doing their jobs. I drove a van for an FBO while I was working as a lineman. I didn't expect to get tips from pilots who wanted a ride to restaurants while they waited for clients. I didn't expect tips for helping load bags. My employer paid me to do my job. I provided excellent service because I took pride in my job, not because I wanted tips. I've lived in countries where tipping is not expected and they provide better service than what I've seen here...
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Old 03-07-2019 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by animation
I guess I skipped over the tipping chapter in the FOM. I got some reading to do.
It's right after the discussion on what type hoodies count as business casual.
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Old 03-07-2019 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by animation
Just because I don't embrace the American views on tipping culture doesn't mean that I go around being impolite or discourteous. By your logic we should be tipping everyone in the service industry. Van drivers for example are better paid than our flight attendants. Why don't we tip flight attendants, ramp agents, or anyone who is just doing their jobs. I drove a van for an FBO while I was working as a lineman. I didn't expect to get tips from pilots who wanted a ride to restaurants while they waited for clients. I didn't expect tips for helping load bags. My employer paid me to do my job. I provided excellent service because I took pride in my job, not because I wanted tips. I've lived in countries where tipping is not expected and they provide better service than what I've seen here...
Well I guess you could use the saying, when in Rome, do as the Romans do!!! We tip here in the U.S.
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Old 03-07-2019 | 12:48 PM
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Notwithstanding poor or mediocre service, tipping is customary in this country. You can write if off as a business expense if you’re really that cheap. If I were another hotel guest on a van with a bunch of people wearing their corporate uniforms (in this case a flight crew) and they didn’t tip, I would sure as hell judge their company and their profession based on that. Keep in mind you never know who’s watching your behavior. Tipping is precisely one of the things per diem is for. I’ve worked for tips in my life and it sucks. You can say “Well get another job then.” I did. Now apparently I have to deal with coworkers not having the simple courtesy to give a van driver making close to minimum wage $1.
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Old 03-07-2019 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by blackdenton
It's right after the discussion on what type hoodies count as business casual.
I see what you did there.
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Old 03-07-2019 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
Delta pilots don't tip us when they deadhead on our airplanes, are they cheap jerks? After all, they make a lot more money than we do.

Just had to stir the pot.

#sorrynotsorry
The last DL guy I had on my plane gave me a $25 starbux card. Pretty sure he was former NWA though.
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Old 03-07-2019 | 02:51 PM
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What the hell are you guys on about? Can I get some opinions about this friggin latency acars bs?
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Old 03-07-2019 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by blackdenton
It's right after the discussion on what type hoodies count as business casual.
And trash bags in the flight-deck post flight.
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Old 03-07-2019 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
What the hell are you guys on about? Can I get some opinions about this friggin latency acars bs?
PPAY is what I send. Still haven't gotten a call from base management, I don't think like me though. Could be a factor.
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Old 03-07-2019 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dodsqubam
Notwithstanding poor or mediocre service, tipping is customary in this country. You can write if off as a business expense if you’re really that cheap. If I were another hotel guest on a van with a bunch of people wearing their corporate uniforms (in this case a flight crew) and they didn’t tip, I would sure as hell judge their company and their profession based on that. Keep in mind you never know who’s watching your behavior. Tipping is precisely one of the things per diem is for. I’ve worked for tips in my life and it sucks. You can say “Well get another job then.” I did. Now apparently I have to deal with coworkers not having the simple courtesy to give a van driver making close to minimum wage $1.
*Starts slow clap* This guy!

Give 'em a buck, it's fine.
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