TalkTurkey

Latest hearsay/rumor line. Pilot A asks somebody they attended recurrent with,"why is it taking so long for the new hire SSP stuff?" Pilot B doesn't answer but someone who goes into the classes and talks said,"it won't matter in a couple months anyway."

Avroman

Oh, are we about to be sold to American Airlines or "Comaired"? (yes there is some sarcasm in this post)

gojo

Sarcasm from you? Weird

slowyourroll

I'd guess it's the ongoing rumor we are going to be integrated into Delta.

Mesabah

LOL, that is not going to happen in 100 billion years, forget about it. IF Delta votes in their TA, that's a big IF, there may be a semi tie up between us and them, where we maintain the E190s, while they fly them. We would then take on some extra E175's as 200 replacements. We would then interview to fly these E190's if we are already an E175 pilot, and simply transition to the E190 with seat lock AFTER we get hired. This saves them the cost of a training event on a new hire, since all you are doing is changing the wings on your shirt. NWA management had this plan in 2005, that's where the idea came from.

gloopy

The second part of that may happen to some soft degree. But keep in mind airlines rarely, if ever, even give slight credit to type commonality in the US. The closest we've seen here were SWA until recently (and even they only did it primarily to thin the application stack and show motivation) or brief start up hiring like JB/VX where 320 types were desired the first year or so, if that. Beyond that, no one cares, ever, and its not likely this would manifest itself into anything to do with DL/Endeavor.

The first part of that could happen, but DL scope (with or without the TA) does nothing to allow it so it doesn't look good that this would be a likelihood. More importantly though, it would junk punch the FA's and Mechs (and possibly the dispatchers, etc) and would do more to help get more unions on property than the minuscule to zero "savings" they would even see from it on paper anyway.

If DL gets the E190/195 they could easily, at anytime, pref hire typed pilots at many regionals, but they probably won't. JB and USAir didn't really care about that in their hiring, so why would DL?

I think some are trying to read way more into this than reality supports. That said, there may or may not be a closer hiring relationship with Endeavor and DL going forward. But if so, that will likely be the case regardless of the 175/190 issue. Its just not that significant.

slowyourroll

I agree it wont happen. Just repeating the fantasy scenario I've heard.

Mesabah

The FA's and mechs on the E190 would be Delta mainline. Delta would simply lease the planes to Endeavor at a price that causes END to near bankruptcy. Delta then books the lease payments as profit, and inject free cash into END to keep it afloat. You then book the sticker price of each jet as future profit. This is simply part of the RJ shell game. The employees of the E190 would be all mainline. The service bills would go to END though, so END would pay Delta employees to service the planes. See where I'm going with this?

CAPTAINPCL

Sounds like a pipe dream!!!

Mesabah

Why, no one at Endeavor benefits from this in any way, only management, and people who get profit sharing checks do.