Envoy Captain Upgrades now under 2 years!
05-18-2017 | 09:50 AM
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There's the big difference.... "your buddies". I explain to my family and friends Envoy because they care enough to know the difference. Other than that....I don't consider myself so important that a passer-by will remember or care in 5 minutes.
05-18-2017 | 11:18 AM
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Especially since my app can still sit over at big AA as an external applicant.
05-18-2017 | 11:55 AM
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Pretty wound up.....Relax. Re-read my post. To the average passer-by/ stooge/uninitiated, I tell them AA...saves them the unfortunate experience of eyes glazing over in boredom while I then explain the nuances/partnerships/wholly owned and hub and spoke system. They don't care enough to know the difference. To those with an ounce of perceived interest, I tell them Envoy. I'm not embarrassed to work for a regional/Envoy.
05-18-2017 | 12:54 PM
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For new people inquiring about AAG regionals I'd like to make a comment that is juxtaposed to the above statement. While Envoy pilots, flight attendants, ground crew and staff clearly work for Envoy I would like to inform you of some of the shared AAG/American benefits you have working for the wholly owned AAG regionals.
1- your paycheck deposit (electronic) states American Airline. Does it come from American? Don't know, don't care.
2- your health insurance is administered by AAG/American/BCBS Texas
3- you are eligible for the American Airlines credit union
4- your uniform is made for American Airlines and is labeled American Airlines. Big deal...nope.
5- you have an American Airlines email address [email protected]
6- you flow to American without an interview
7- you have AA flight benefits
Do I work for American ....nope. It's American Airlines minor league. When someone outside the industry asks- who do you fly for? I answer American. If they appear to have some level of intelligence... Envoy. I don't think most people don't care enough to know the difference.
1- your paycheck deposit (electronic) states American Airline. Does it come from American? Don't know, don't care.
2- your health insurance is administered by AAG/American/BCBS Texas
3- you are eligible for the American Airlines credit union
4- your uniform is made for American Airlines and is labeled American Airlines. Big deal...nope.
5- you have an American Airlines email address [email protected]
6- you flow to American without an interview
7- you have AA flight benefits
Do I work for American ....nope. It's American Airlines minor league. When someone outside the industry asks- who do you fly for? I answer American. If they appear to have some level of intelligence... Envoy. I don't think most people don't care enough to know the difference.
05-18-2017 | 01:29 PM
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I think from now on, I'm going to refer to you as Carl Jr.
05-18-2017 | 02:28 PM
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He'd never claim to be from Auburn. Afterall, he's a proud former member of the Embryo Riddle Demo Team or whatever his leatest self given title is.
05-18-2017 | 03:39 PM
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05-18-2017 | 03:40 PM
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I understand your post. I have been doing this a while too. Explaining what Envoy is, is not that complicated and it informs the public that you are just another contractor and in fact, NOT an AA pilot. Whatever, do what you like. I'm just looking out for your credibility.
05-18-2017 | 07:55 PM
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If someone doesn't know who envoy is why not just tell them you work for a subsidiary of American. That's a whole lot more honest.
05-18-2017 | 08:13 PM
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If I'm asked who I work for, I say Envoy. If they say "who's Envoy", depending one who I'm a talking to, I'll either say "Envoy is owned by American Airlines" or I'll simply say "American Eagle". Honestly, if I have to explain what Envoy is, my explanations doesn't matter so I don't bother.
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