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Old 02-01-2018 | 04:49 AM
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Month over month flow date is getting farther away rather then closer...

Flow=Fake News
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Old 02-01-2018 | 05:07 AM
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Please go on. How now? Other than the standard 25 month.
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Old 02-01-2018 | 05:54 AM
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Old 02-01-2018 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Gooselives
Month over month flow date is getting farther away rather then closer...

Flow=Fake News
I count 25 names who flowed in January.

I also count 25 names who were awarded (placed in the pool) on Jan 22nd.

Which number is being violated?
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Old 02-01-2018 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Chicken Little
I count 25 names who flowed in January.

I also count 25 names who were awarded (placed in the pool) on Jan 22nd.

Which number is being violated?
Did AA take more than 50 this month? If so then that would be the number they are referring to I imagine.
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Old 02-01-2018 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by AZPilotMike
Did AA take more than 50 this month? If so then that would be the number they are referring to I imagine.
Which month? In January I believe they hired 80ish. In February the first class is going to be 24 (if you believe the AA thread), and nobody has said how big the second class will be. 25 of the February total will be flows.
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Old 02-01-2018 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ORDinary
Which month? In January I believe they hired 80ish. In February the first class is going to be 24 (if you believe the AA thread), and nobody has said how big the second class will be. 25 of the February total will be flows.
I was only guessing as to the OP’s intent. If they took more than 50 that month then they need to take more than 25 if I understand correctly.
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Old 02-01-2018 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AZPilotMike
I was only guessing as to the OP’s intent. If they took more than 50 that month then they need to take more than 25 if I understand correctly.
This is straight from the LOA, it sucks what they’re doing but doesn’t seem like they are violating it. Doubt the union will win grievance.

Upon delivery of the 40th EMB-175 as set forth in Appendix D, and assuming there are still pilots who were added to the Envoy master seniority list on or before October 11, 2011 who have not yet been offered a flow through opportunity, 50% of all AA new hire training slots, no fewer than 25 per month (subject to the 50%), shall go to such Envoy pilots, until the point in time when the next pilot on the Envoy master seniority list to be offered a flow through opportunity was hired after October 11, 2011.
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Old 02-01-2018 | 06:49 PM
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Do you have a law or contract background?
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Old 02-01-2018 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Daytripper13
This is straight from the LOA, it sucks what they’re doing but doesn’t seem like they are violating it. Doubt the union will win grievance.

Upon delivery of the 40th EMB-175 as set forth in Appendix D, and assuming there are still pilots who were added to the Envoy master seniority list on or before October 11, 2011 who have not yet been offered a flow through opportunity, 50% of all AA new hire training slots, no fewer than 25 per month (subject to the 50%), shall go to such Envoy pilots, until the point in time when the next pilot on the Envoy master seniority list to be offered a flow through opportunity was hired after October 11, 2011.
This would mean that no fewer than 50% would reign supreme. If 60 are hired at AA in a month, 30 protected pilots should flow. Operational necessity should not apply at this point, as the company continues to grow the pilot group/flying.

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer.
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