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Old 02-16-2018 | 12:34 PM
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You could profer to displace into a new seat and not be subject to the training freeze. The company has stated that they will run profers to displace before forcing CA upgrades.
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Old 02-16-2018 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by babs
You could profer to displace into a new seat and not be subject to the training freeze. The company has stated that they will run profers to displace before forcing CA upgrades.
Yes, but what guys are saying in regards to LGA is that they have to have a need to displace out of LGA. And since that place is the bottom of the bottom, you can bet money that the displacements will be TO LGA not FROM LGA.
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Old 02-16-2018 | 10:27 PM
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The company will not run a displacement bid. It would create even more chaos in the TC.
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Old 02-17-2018 | 04:16 AM
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If only we could pay somebody to address these types of concerns and share said information with the pilot group on a regular basis.
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Old 02-17-2018 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheg0theD
How can they not displace you if the displacement is off of seniority..

For example CRJ goes unfilled the displacement goes in seniority order based off of displacement preferences.

There for, they would have to displace you before displacing someone junior to you assuming LGA wasn’t higher in your displacement preferences.


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So this isn't a displacement. The last two bids haven't been a TRUE displacement. If a TRUE displacement occurred then you could hold your seniority. But since this a forced upgrade then the normal rules of displacement are thrown out.

Also since displacement is bad they displace in reverse seniority. They do accept proffer to displace in seniority order.

If you want out of LGA into ORD CRJ then preference bid back to FO and the displace to ORD CRJ. You can still bid FO if you haven't finished fed ride. Sounds like you have finished though.
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Old 02-17-2018 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
So this isn't a displacement. The last two bids haven't been a TRUE displacement. If a TRUE displacement occurred then you could hold your seniority. But since this a forced upgrade then the normal rules of displacement are thrown out.



Also since displacement is bad they displace in reverse seniority. They do accept proffer to displace in seniority order.



If you want out of LGA into ORD CRJ then preference bid back to FO and the displace to ORD CRJ. You can still bid FO if you haven't finished fed ride. Sounds like you have finished though.


Yes I have finished.

I was awarded Miami on the prelim last bid, (I was done with my fed ride at the time) then on the final was “Displaced/NEB” how is that an upgrade and not a displacement?

All these problems for me would have been solved if they gave me the TFY rights. I could live with LGa with a positive space seat and hotels.


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Old 02-17-2018 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheg0theD
Yes I have finished.

I was awarded Miami on the prelim last bid, (I was done with my fed ride at the time) then on the final was “Displaced/NEB” how is that an upgrade and not a displacement?

All these problems for me would have been solved if they gave me the TFY rights. I could live with LGa with a positive space seat and hotels.


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Well, in a TRUE displacement you could of held Miami as an FO. Since it was a sham displacement you were only limited to CA position to displace into.

Does that make sense? In a true displacement a base/seat/equipment is reduced in size. Those pilots are the only displaced pilots. They choose where the want to go if they are senior enough to hold it. If the displaced pilot chooses an already filled vacancy then other pilots in that position get displaced as well. (This is essentially what happened to you. You were kicked out of base by a pilot more senior to you, who was forced to upgrade.).
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Old 02-21-2018 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
Well, in a TRUE displacement you could of held Miami as an FO. Since it was a sham displacement you were only limited to CA position to displace into.



Does that make sense? In a true displacement a base/seat/equipment is reduced in size. Those pilots are the only displaced pilots. They choose where the want to go if they are senior enough to hold it. If the displaced pilot chooses an already filled vacancy then other pilots in that position get displaced as well. (This is essentially what happened to you. You were kicked out of base by a pilot more senior to you, who was forced to upgrade.).


Yes that makes sense. Thanks for the clarity!


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Old 03-18-2018 | 10:12 AM
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Anyone heard anything about when the next bid will be?
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Old 03-18-2018 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Destroyer
Anyone heard anything about when the next bid will be?
I expect it to be published this week or at the latest next week.
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