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Old 03-18-2018 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CrowneVic
The bid opens March 27.
Any idea the closing date?
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Old 03-18-2018 | 05:09 PM
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I don’t, sorry.
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Old 03-19-2018 | 04:03 AM
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Holding captain in this bid hopefully.
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Old 03-19-2018 | 07:01 AM
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Anybody know if they are planning to have any DFW CAPTAIN EMJ vacancies this go around?
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Old 03-19-2018 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Virga show
Anybody know if they are planning to have any DFW CAPTAIN EMJ vacancies this go around?
Highly doubtful. Last bid had about 10 displaced out of DCE to other bases. Most of the 145 vacancies will be LGA. I’m guessing all upgrades will have to do a stint in LGA unless their seniority can hold another base.
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Old 03-19-2018 | 03:56 PM
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I'm seeing some misconceptions about displacements.

Remember, a displacement is in reverse seniority order. If you have already been displaced from FO to CA, chances are in the next displacement, most people will be junior to you and unable to displace you.

In order to be displaced yourself, someone senior to you has to be displaced from his/her position.
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Old 03-19-2018 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LowValueAviator
I'm seeing some misconceptions about displacements.

Remember, a displacement is in reverse seniority order. If you have already been displaced from FO to CA, chances are in the next displacement, most people will be junior to you and unable to displace you.

In order to be displaced yourself, someone senior to you has to be displaced from his/her position.
Here is how this is going to happen. Guys with prior 121 time that want to leave LGA will preference AND be awarded ANYTHING they bid for. They will then subsequently be displaced out of that position when the forced upgrades happen. This will catch them off guard and get ORD pilots displaced with NEB back to LGA. Some may even be able to paper hold the 175 ORD.

The ability for the company to have a displacement EVERY bid is the single biggest failure of the union. It still blows my mind they decided to go this route.
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Old 03-19-2018 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
Here is how this is going to happen. Guys with prior 121 time that want to leave LGA will preference AND be awarded ANYTHING they bid for. They will then subsequently be displaced out of that position when the forced upgrades happen. This will catch them off guard and get ORD pilots displaced with NEB back to LGA. Some may even be able to paper hold the 175 ORD.

The ability for the company to have a displacement EVERY bid is the single biggest failure of the union. It still blows my mind they decided to go this route.
I agree with you that the prior 121 people are hosed. But, the Jan. displacement bid had far more FOs, with some seniority, displaced to CA. Those people are stuck in their displaced positions unless they can either preference bid out of it, or be displaced by a more senior pilot. I don't see the second option happening all that much.
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Old 03-19-2018 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LowValueAviator
I agree with you that the prior 121 people are hosed. But, the Jan. displacement bid had far more FOs, with some seniority, displaced to CA. Those people are stuck in their displaced positions unless they can either preference bid out of it, or be displaced by a more senior pilot. I don't see the second option happening all that much.
Sizeable bunch of people who were awarded 175 CA in October got displaced to 145/CRJ CA in January
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Old 03-19-2018 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by LowValueAviator
I agree with you that the prior 121 people are hosed. But, the Jan. displacement bid had far more FOs, with some seniority, displaced to CA. Those people are stuck in their displaced positions unless they can either preference bid out of it, or be displaced by a more senior pilot. I don't see the second option happening all that much.
I think we can all agree we won't see displacements like last the last bid.

However, I think we might be a bit shocked to see how many pilots of varying seniority will get displaced especially if "sport" bidding takes place.

I wonder how many pilots are bidding Reserve to delay upgrading. How many RTP guys took more delays in getting through training and building time due to training. Some pilots transferred to DFW sooner than other and LGA FOs could have been building time faster holding a better line than a reserve pilot in DFW.

If I was a betting man I'd bet your explanation will be right. I just wouldn't bet too much on it because it so difficult to predict how people bid.
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