Most Junior CA Base and Equipment
03-29-2018, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by proskuneho
Does anyone have an idea of about how long "Direct Entry Captains" are sitting reserve? Thanks.
I'm not saying he is blowing smoke about holding a line right away but the only way he is right is if the line count goes up in LGA and they have to TDY to LGA from somewhere. In ORD last year we went from having more lines than FOs to three FOs to every line. The drastic changes going on around here make it hard to predict anything. Also, AA may hand something down last minute and throw a wrench in RWs plans/predictions like LGA opening back up.
03-29-2018, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by LineUpAndPay
And the actual junior CA, not just the award on the Flow plan from one bid.
03-29-2018, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Inop2
Per the flow plan dated 7mar18 these are the most junior CA awards. I believe the union updates our seniority number before the company so It may appear to be errors but are just not company updated seniority numbers. The date of hire was not on the document. The flow plan is available to all: my.envoyair.com - Departments - Flight- Flight Bid & Crew Info. Same area were you can see the monthly bid packets but on the left side of the page in the Bid Crew Information.
03-29-2018, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by lakehouse
It's all so fluid who cares. It'll keep changing non stop. Be ready to be forced to the left seat for endless reserve and abuse.
And because it keeps changing besides lga being most jr, expect non-stop displacements all over the USA.
And because it keeps changing besides lga being most jr, expect non-stop displacements all over the USA.
03-29-2018, 06:33 AM
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Just reviewed Flow Plan 1802 from 07 MAR 2018. Juniormost CA by status, some statuses are more junior than the OP, and those CAs have finished training, such as DCE and DCL.
Status-seniority number-DOH
DCE-1272-09/16
DCL-1094-10/15
OCE-1869-09/17
OCL-1154-04/16
OCC-1817-08/17
MCE-1514-03/17
NCE-New Hire
Total seniority list stands at 2391 as of the 12 MAR 2018 NH class.
Status-seniority number-DOH
DCE-1272-09/16
DCL-1094-10/15
OCE-1869-09/17
OCL-1154-04/16
OCC-1817-08/17
MCE-1514-03/17
NCE-New Hire
Total seniority list stands at 2391 as of the 12 MAR 2018 NH class.
03-29-2018, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bassman1985
Just reviewed Flow Plan 1802 from 07 MAR 2018. Juniormost CA by status, some statuses are more junior than the OP, and those CAs have finished training, such as DCE and DCL.
Status-seniority number-DOH
DCE-1272-09/16
DCL-1094-10/15
OCE-1869-09/17
OCL-1154-04/16
OCC-1817-08/17
MCE-1514-03/17
NCE-New Hire
Total seniority list stands at 2391 as of the 12 MAR 2018 NH class.
Status-seniority number-DOH
DCE-1272-09/16
DCL-1094-10/15
OCE-1869-09/17
OCL-1154-04/16
OCC-1817-08/17
MCE-1514-03/17
NCE-New Hire
Total seniority list stands at 2391 as of the 12 MAR 2018 NH class.
I wonder how these numbers are going to shake out for the next vacancy bid!
I really wish the union was a bit more proactive about getting information out about displacements and preference bidding. There are some guys here that will get screwed by this. Here is a friendly tip: ALWAYS have your displacements filled in COMPLETELY!!!!!!!!!!! If you have 1000 hours 121 time then you should have 7 CA displacement bids in (ONE BID FOR EACH BASE/EQUIPMENT). Also, feel free to throw in the FO bids in there as well.... You never know. ONLY preference if you absolutely want a position! It MAY be better for you if you can proffer to displace into the position you want.
03-29-2018, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
Thanks for this info!
I wonder how these numbers are going to shake out for the next vacancy bid!
I really wish the union was a bit more proactive about getting information out about displacements and preference bidding. There are some guys here that will get screwed by this. Here is a friendly tip: ALWAYS have your displacements filled in COMPLETELY!!!!!!!!!!! If you have 1000 hours 121 time then you should have 7 CA displacement bids in (ONE BID FOR EACH BASE/EQUIPMENT). Also, feel free to throw in the FO bids in there as well.... You never know. ONLY preference if you absolutely want a position! It MAY be better for you if you can proffer to displace into the position you want.
I wonder how these numbers are going to shake out for the next vacancy bid!
I really wish the union was a bit more proactive about getting information out about displacements and preference bidding. There are some guys here that will get screwed by this. Here is a friendly tip: ALWAYS have your displacements filled in COMPLETELY!!!!!!!!!!! If you have 1000 hours 121 time then you should have 7 CA displacement bids in (ONE BID FOR EACH BASE/EQUIPMENT). Also, feel free to throw in the FO bids in there as well.... You never know. ONLY preference if you absolutely want a position! It MAY be better for you if you can proffer to displace into the position you want.
03-29-2018, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by okayestpilot
The vacancy has been out for a week and not a peep from our union. No surprise there. Id rather get information from them then have to seek others advice on a forum. So for someone who is going to be affected by this vacancy and desperately wants to stay in DFW, is it better to proffer to displace, or just have displacement preferences or to preference a standing bid for DFW and be subject to seat lock if I am awarded it?
In your case I would probably use displacements with all DFW first followed by airplanes that would get you back to DFW and eliminate any preferences that would cause a seat lock away from DFW. Avoiding the CRJ would be advisable unless you want to roll the dice on a quick displacement
Edit: If you're really junior do everything you can to get into ORD EMB/E75 since that will be a somewhat easier commute and still get you back to DFW when you can hold it
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