Most Junior CA Base and Equipment
03-29-2018, 08:09 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
That's not how it works. VERY BAD ADVICE!!!
This is how people think it works but get upset when they end up with a displacement. Displacements trump preference. The senior pilot IF displaced will hold DFW and then kick out the junior guy who preference bid DFW.
Example. When NY closed, no pilots needed any preferences because they knew they were getting displaced. All they had were displacement bids in because they knew they were getting displaced.
A DEC entry CA that has finished IOE will need to preference to a new position.
A pilot who is awarded a CA position but has not finished IOE can preference to an FO position and force a new displacement to a CA position.
This is how people think it works but get upset when they end up with a displacement. Displacements trump preference. The senior pilot IF displaced will hold DFW and then kick out the junior guy who preference bid DFW.
Example. When NY closed, no pilots needed any preferences because they knew they were getting displaced. All they had were displacement bids in because they knew they were getting displaced.
A DEC entry CA that has finished IOE will need to preference to a new position.
A pilot who is awarded a CA position but has not finished IOE can preference to an FO position and force a new displacement to a CA position.
If someone preferences a seat that’s going to be awarded first before their displacement preference.
03-29-2018, 08:25 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by Weekendwarrior2
If someone preferences a seat that’s going to be awarded first before their displacement preference.
A Sr guy will always bump the Jr guy.
The only way a Jr guy will get to keep that preference is if they don't actually displace anybody senior to him. Since we know every eligible FO WILL be displaced, this shouldn't happen.
It seems we are in uncharted bidding territory here and have to throw all the traditional bidding strategies out the window.
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03-30-2018, 01:54 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by Weekendwarrior2
If someone preferences a seat that’s going to be awarded first before their displacement preference.
And yes MT we are in uncharted territory. I wish people would know what's going on and the pitfalls of bidding certain ways. I think most people don't understand how displacements are going to work.
03-30-2018, 04:37 AM
#34
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Sorry if this has been answered...
If I pref bid something and get it, but also displacement bid it, which will it run as? I know I saw it runs the pref first but then got confused by some of the replies.
Just asking mostly for seat lock reasons
If I pref bid something and get it, but also displacement bid it, which will it run as? I know I saw it runs the pref first but then got confused by some of the replies.
Just asking mostly for seat lock reasons
03-30-2018, 04:51 AM
#35
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Originally Posted by Pat2389
Sorry if this has been answered...
If I pref bid something and get it, but also displacement bid it, which will it run as? I know I saw it runs the pref first but then got confused by some of the replies.
Just asking mostly for seat lock reasons
If I pref bid something and get it, but also displacement bid it, which will it run as? I know I saw it runs the pref first but then got confused by some of the replies.
Just asking mostly for seat lock reasons
Since the pref is run first you will get your pref bid. They only look at your displacement bids if you get displaced.
That's why I suggest bidding into a position you know you can hold and be immediately displaced from.
03-30-2018, 06:07 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
Awarded as a preference.
Since the pref is run first you will get your pref bid. They only look at your displacement bids if you get displaced.
That's why I suggest bidding into a position you know you can hold and be immediately displaced from.
Since the pref is run first you will get your pref bid. They only look at your displacement bids if you get displaced.
That's why I suggest bidding into a position you know you can hold and be immediately displaced from.
03-30-2018, 06:30 AM
#37
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Originally Posted by moon
A strong union would come out and tell everyone to do as Pedro says in order to force the companies hand. No one seat locked would create so many headaches for the company. But apparently that's not what we have. This is the contract we have. Use it to your benefit.
03-30-2018, 08:00 AM
#39
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Originally Posted by havick206
So what happens if you don’t preference something and then displacements don’t go as high this time?
03-30-2018, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by havick206
So what happens if you don’t preference something and then displacements don’t go as high this time?
If you have finished Fed ride then all you can do is proffer to displace OR preference bid. This is the scenario I think you were trying to convey in your earlier post. And yes in this scenario you could end up kicking yourself for not preference bidding a position and only proffering to displace.
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