Most Junior CA Base and Equipment
03-29-2018, 08:10 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by okayestpilot
The vacancy has been out for a week and not a peep from our union. No surprise there. Id rather get information from them then have to seek others advice on a forum. So for someone who is going to be affected by this vacancy and desperately wants to stay in DFW, is it better to proffer to displace, or just have displacement preferences or to preference a standing bid for DFW and be subject to seat lock if I am awarded it?
I’m guessing you just reached the uograde hours then.
What aircraft type are you currently flying?
If i were in your shoes i would preference both types for DFW CA, and then proffer to displace the best of the worse **** sandwiches as a commute. At least this way as they go through the bid preferences you may get DFW and if not you’ll be displaced and not seat locked.
03-29-2018, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by okayestpilot
The vacancy has been out for a week and not a peep from our union. No surprise there. Id rather get information from them then have to seek others advice on a forum. So for someone who is going to be affected by this vacancy and desperately wants to stay in DFW, is it better to proffer to displace, or just have displacement preferences or to preference a standing bid for DFW and be subject to seat lock if I am awarded it?
Alright since you give very little details I'll make it general for everyone.
Every single pilot that has or is close to having 1000 needs every CA displacement slot filled.
All FOs that have or close to having 1000 needs ONLY DISPLACEMENT bids in. DO NOT preference to a CA position. (There is no need to if the company is forcing you anyway. Plus you get two extra paid move days if moving bases and you have no seat lock.)
If you are unsure or want to proffer to displace then contact the union and those guys are good about helping people out.
Pit falls:
The preference bids and displacement bids are run completely separately. Many junior LGA CAs are going to want to bid DFW CA as a preference. They will MOST LIKELY be awarded DFW. Subsequently the displacement bids will be run and they will be displaced. Sometimes these guys forget to reevaluate their displacement bids because there are already displaced. These guys will likely end up with NOT ENOUGH BIDS and could possibly end up in Chicago on the CRJ with a long term training event.
03-29-2018, 09:04 AM
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Just remember they first run the preference bids. THEN the proffer for displacements preferences are run with whatever is left over.
Preference what you actually want otherwise someone junior to you might get it if you only proffer to displace.
You will be kicking yourself if you could have held DFW or wherever else you wanted, but instead we’re displaced to LGA, meanwhile someone way junior to you gets DFW because they preferenced DFW but you only proffered to displace.
If you’re super junior and likely to get LGA anyway, then just proffer to displace and don’t be away locked.
I would take a seat lock in a different type rather than commute and risk 6-12 months or more in a commuting situation if i could have lived in base. But that’s just me, everyone has different priorities.
Preference what you actually want otherwise someone junior to you might get it if you only proffer to displace.
You will be kicking yourself if you could have held DFW or wherever else you wanted, but instead we’re displaced to LGA, meanwhile someone way junior to you gets DFW because they preferenced DFW but you only proffered to displace.
If you’re super junior and likely to get LGA anyway, then just proffer to displace and don’t be away locked.
I would take a seat lock in a different type rather than commute and risk 6-12 months or more in a commuting situation if i could have lived in base. But that’s just me, everyone has different priorities.
03-29-2018, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by havick206
Just remember they first run the preference bids. THEN the proffer for displacements preferences are run with whatever is left over.
Preference what you actually want otherwise someone junior to you might get it if you only proffer to displace.
You will be kicking yourself if you could have held DFW or wherever else you wanted, but instead we’re displaced to LGA, meanwhile someone way junior to you gets DFW because they preferenced DFW but you only proffered to displace.
If you’re super junior and likely to get LGA anyway, then just proffer to displace and don’t be away locked.
I would take a seat lock in a different type rather than commute and risk 6-12 months or more in a commuting situation if i could have lived in base. But that’s just me, everyone has different priorities.
Preference what you actually want otherwise someone junior to you might get it if you only proffer to displace.
You will be kicking yourself if you could have held DFW or wherever else you wanted, but instead we’re displaced to LGA, meanwhile someone way junior to you gets DFW because they preferenced DFW but you only proffered to displace.
If you’re super junior and likely to get LGA anyway, then just proffer to displace and don’t be away locked.
I would take a seat lock in a different type rather than commute and risk 6-12 months or more in a commuting situation if i could have lived in base. But that’s just me, everyone has different priorities.
This is how people think it works but get upset when they end up with a displacement. Displacements trump preference. The senior pilot IF displaced will hold DFW and then kick out the junior guy who preference bid DFW.
Example. When NY closed, no pilots needed any preferences because they knew they were getting displaced. All they had were displacement bids in because they knew they were getting displaced.
A DEC entry CA that has finished IOE will need to preference to a new position.
A pilot who is awarded a CA position but has not finished IOE can preference to an FO position and force a new displacement to a CA position.
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03-29-2018, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by proskuneho
So are most Direct Entry captains getting forced to LGA? How many hours/month are junior reserve captains flying on average?
All are going to LGA! You will fly maybe 5 days a month if lucky maybe less, maybe more depending on where you fall on the seniority list.
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03-29-2018, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Sheg0theD
All are going to LGA! You will fly maybe 5 days a month if lucky maybe less, maybe more depending on where you fall on the seniority list.
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03-29-2018, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sheg0theD
All are going to LGA! You will fly maybe 5 days a month if lucky maybe less, maybe more depending on where you fall on the seniority list.
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03-29-2018, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sheg0theD
All are going to LGA! You will fly maybe 5 days a month if lucky maybe less, maybe more depending on where you fall on the seniority list.
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03-29-2018, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by flysooner9
This is not really true if you look at the N6D. Some junior guys are over 70 hours for the month.
Who? Please do explain... the ones over 70 hours took 50 hours on ioe for the month. I’m over 70 hours but have been on the line since January. You are mistaken my friend.
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