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Old 12-01-2020 | 10:36 AM
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Old 12-01-2020 | 05:33 PM
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Does the airline use the boldmethod clickbait he writes as the pilots quarterly training?
Old 12-01-2020 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Sperrysan
Does the airline use the boldmethod clickbait he writes as the pilots quarterly training?
I've seen boldmethod images in our quarterly CBTs. No clue how that works, doubt it's licensed. And doubt they (boldmethod) even care. Those images have gotta be in every CFI binder and flight school powerpoint from the last 5 years hahaha. If they're still making money off of that stuff though, more power to him. As an outsider, I agree with most of you guys. I don't understand the hate and good for him for capitalizing on a trend. Shrug.
Old 12-01-2020 | 07:34 PM
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I’d like to thank DB for his nasty snarky posts in the ord page sent to the cpo. I’m glad I don’t have to see his ugly face on the yoke caps of the 145s anymore
Old 12-01-2020 | 09:01 PM
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SM is an enemy of your pilot group 100%. His video’s are actually very good, professionally done, and legal, unlike every other wanna be pilot YouTuber. BUT what his videos do is influence clueless teenagers to spend $100,000 in student debt to go make 45K a year, with terrible work rules. He’s creating more supply for management and less demand, which doesn’t matter now, but will in the future. Less demand equals less leverage, equals less pay for the pilot group.

What makes the situation worse is that he benefits financially by his situation while hurting the pilot group unintentionally.
Old 12-01-2020 | 09:17 PM
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The common theme here is.... SM is a decent human being, but bad for for the pilot group. Good on him for the hustle, but shame on him for doing what no one else can’t and thus go against the pilot group.

There is definitely a culture amongst pilots and SM seems to gone against it. Through the fame and money, I still wouldn’t want to be him.
Old 12-01-2020 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
The common theme here is.... SM is a decent human being, but bad for for the pilot group. Good on him for the hustle, but shame on him for doing what no one else can’t and thus go against the pilot group.

There is definitely a culture amongst pilots and SM seems to gone against it. Through the fame and money, I still wouldn’t want to be him.
He doesn’t have to make video’s for Envoy. He could make other videos not related to 121 operations, but notice how Envoy “allows” him to make these videos. Both parties win financially while the rest of pilot groups will feel the brunt. Seems like a real sweet deal, you guys should all support him and tell him how great he is!
Old 12-02-2020 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Finessed
He doesn’t have to make video’s for Envoy. He could make other videos not related to 121 operations, but notice how Envoy “allows” him to make these videos. Both parties win financially while the rest of pilot groups will feel the brunt. Seems like a real sweet deal, you guys should all support him and tell him how great he is!
I get your point. I don’t have any stake in this game, but it would probably make me feel some sort of way if I was on property too.
Old 12-02-2020 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
I get your point. I don’t have any stake in this game, but it would probably make me feel some sort of way if I was on property too.
As someone said earlier - there are pilots at every airline who do business with the company outside of their pilot contract. And there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s called capitalism and being able to market yourself in an otherwise non-merit based career. No matter how good each pilot is at their job, you can’t really “get ahead” in aviation very easily.

Some make software, some work in management, some show up in safety videos, some own flight schools that do contracts with the company, and Swayne just so happens to make videos. Which he’s been doing for 7 years. Unless I’m wrong, I don’t think any of you here spent years building experience working with the FAA and airlines to get approval for cockpit footage and stuff like that.

And for those of you talking about how he posted a video during contract negotiations.. do you not remember what he posted on Instagram the day the company backed out on your agreement? The video was released hours before your union announced what had happened... so how was he supposed to know before any of you? THEN he didn’t post another video publicly until your contract was finally agreed upon.

I don’t know Swayne well. I did however meet him since I went to school at UND. But what I do know is that over 84 pages of comments on nameless forums about him seen wrong. And if you spend time looking at what he’s doing and the timing of his posts, this thread doesn’t seem right.
Old 12-02-2020 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Finessed
He doesn’t have to make video’s for Envoy. He could make other videos not related to 121 operations, but notice how Envoy “allows” him to make these videos. Both parties win financially while the rest of pilot groups will feel the brunt. Seems like a real sweet deal, you guys should all support him and tell him how great he is!
"Both parties win financially" That's capitalism my friend. If you don't like it, start your own side business. Sounds to me like you're really bitter about this when this really doesn't have any affect on your life.

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