I don't think we've been talking about training freezes for new hires here.

I mistyped an important word in that. Edited above

Ok so I would like to make sure I have this straight in my head, because a lot has been thrown around here.

Say I want to upgrade on the E75 ORD. If I don’t put a proffer in, I can be displaced into it so long as my displacement list has it as number one.

However, I do run the risk that of all the vacancies are filled by proffers I could be displaced into something else. The gamble here is that I could get displaced into it and agree to the training freeze which would allow me the extra 5 a month plus a longer wait prior to training.

So it’s a matter of taking the thing you want via proffer and being happy with it or gambling that not enough proffers will take it and hope for displacement into that aircraft for the extra money.

Do I have this correct?

There’s been enough said one way or the other here that I would normally suggest asking a union rep but given that the union emails seem to have either wrong or missleading info in them compared to the LOAs, I’m not sure the union reps know. Might be good if someone that’s been through the forced upgrade after these latest LOAs would chime in.

I have an Email into my Rep, will report back what I hear.

-Keep the dirty side down

Standing Vacancy
 

Bump!!!!!

If everyone proffered to displace, vs preference bid for upgrade things here would start to look more like a united group of pilots, things would be more interesting for everyone in the next few months.

Group of guys with hours to upgrade in the next vacancy could be leaving a lot of money on the table it They 3P for a seat locked (upgrade bid) into a sure thing equipment/base, but why when they would have held it anyway had they just placed it at the top of 3D if everyone followed suit in unity. If base QOL, and AA flow are the top goals, a longer senior FO status while receiving CA pay is gold! Especially when getting paid as a CA anyway to sit as a senior FO waiting your turn to upgrade.

I will admittedly say I have a wide smile on my face, really happy for those who take advantage of the opportunity here. Happy flying, seniority, and time at home to those waiting for upgrade training when this happens! Especially during slow months on a fullly staffed FO Rsv list.

No FO should have a preference bid. They should all be displacement bids.

You’re gonna upgrade whether you want to or not, why not get the advantages of a displacement? If your preference can hold it, your displacement can too.

I agree. After struggling with what to do since the last vacancy, I decided against the SV and emptied my 3p and pdis. We should all band together and have a united front. Things are not going to change until people stop showing up in droves and those of us here stop rushing towards CA. In the companies eyes they are winning and until they stop, nothing will change.

I’m in. /10/

OK, well I am on board. I will empty my 3P as well once they unlock it.

Unity