I am currently an FO assigned the God forsaken CRJ 700. I was one of the last to be hired on the thing in the past several months. The main reason I picked envoy was the dallas base which would’ve made my commute very easy. Now I am base locked (ORD only A/C) and with envoys policy I am seat locked as an FO indefinitely. PSA continues to push back the date they will take more of the CRJs ( now FEB 2020), I am planning to leave ASAP because I am flying 10-15 hours a month and no weekends off with min pay and will continue like this for another 8-12 months probably longer since we are losing more and more lines every month. Since I took the bonus I am now an indentured servant to the company for 24 months.
1.Does anyone know how this repayment process works?
2. If I was hired December 15th 2017 can I quit in December 16th 2018, Or do I have to complete a full 12 calendar months as in January 1st 2019 would be my last day?
3. Does anyone know how long it takes for them to ask for the money, I’ve heard some people claim they never got contacted?

 

You should look at the seniority lists. There’s a lot of movement coming on the CRJ soon.

 

Your obligation drops by half on day 366, then decreases in even amount over then next 12 months. Envoy has outsourced bonus recovery to a law firm specializing in such things. They will probably allow you to make payments, but no guarantees.

 

Roughly 30 days after departure you’ll receive an IOU from receivables. You can make payments via PayPal or check.

[email protected] can forward you the PayPal link.

 

Why leave though? Seniority is everything. Why start all over again? You’ll flow to American in a few years anyways and your clock to there has already started. With all the movement, your seniority will go up. Why give that up?

 

Envoy: It was the best of times and it was the worst of times. Sorry bud you just drew the short straw. Before you leave make sure you have a class date or other options.

 

I guess it’s because there’s little movement on the CRJ lol what he described is pretty atrocious

 

lol ok but there are other ways of looking at this. I wouldn’t quit just because of that. He is leaving money on the table and the option of going to American in just a few years. I’m just saying, it’s worth it in the long run. Heck, he’ll be flying 737’s or a320’ in 6 years... NOT BAD lol

 

Appreciate the feedback everyone. I am set to flow in 2026... that’s 7.5 years from now and I’ll be 30. I have a bachelors degree and do charity work regularly. I feel I can get there a lot earlier than 30. Yes I know I’ll still be young and I’ve got this industry by the nads as far as that goes. However, I’m two leg commuting, spending roughly 9-10 hours every time I go up or come home. I’m looking at spending another 2.5 years in ORD until I upgrade. So total upgrade time of 3.5 years at a company that says they upgrade in 18 months. Which they do, just not on the CRJ. I spend roughly 6.5 days at home a month and feel I am cutting Time off of my life expectancy doing this commute. At the end of the day I’m looking for the slightest amount of quality of life and some decent pay. Didn’t know it was so hard to find in this industry... maybe I picked the wrong career. I love flying as much as the next guy but if it’s gonna cost me the next 3 plus years of happiness then it’s not worth it. Life is too short..

 

Fair points, but with 9000+ pilots estimated to retire from American in 12 years (correct me if I’m wrong with this), you might flow sooner than 7 years.