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Old 10-18-2018 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Dalda Erlines
Yeah, you have flow! So be grateful for the 10 years it’ll take to get to AA.
More like 6-7 right now.
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Old 10-18-2018 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
More like 6-7 right now.
Oh my mistake...only 7 years.
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Old 10-18-2018 | 10:42 AM
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Lol, there's nothing wrong with Envoy...

... if you get the 175. Otherwise, this place may in fact be the worst regional in the US right now. It definitely is if you're a commuter.

The flow is guaranteed movement. For captains. You can't upgrade unless you fly, and you won't fly here.

I'm on the hook already, I've wasted a year here stagnant, involuntary reserve getting no hours. This in bases where other companies need pilots, and are hiring and flying them like crazy while paying them way more and rewarding with good work rules, schedules, etc. If you're on the outside looking in, it isn't worth it. Unless you WANT to sit reserve as an FO forever, run.

Even being a cadet won't save you now, they've done all 145 classes recently.
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Old 10-18-2018 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Dalda Erlines
Oh my mistake...only 7 years.
Butt hurt my friend? The number will keep going down. Go to EDV then get the money and good luck with the application review haha.
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Old 10-18-2018 | 11:46 AM
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Lol, I love my job here at Envoy. I hope you quit so I can move up in seniority.
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Old 10-18-2018 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RomeoBravo
But if you drive to work it’s a really good place to be. Perspective is everything.

We have tons of choices in this industry and there are clearly reasons why those that are unhappy today, initially came here.

Among the top choices are likely:
Flow
Bonus
Hope of flying the E-175

Anyone that’s this unhappy as evident in this post should make a change that best suits their needs today. Why live unhappy?


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I came here wanting none of those things. My hope/expectation was to get 145 LGA initially and be able to base transfer to where the flying is. That didn’t happen and there is no way to know that before coming to class. This place is a QOL **** hole.
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Old 10-18-2018 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by in2deep
I came here wanting none of those things. My hope/expectation was to get 145 LGA initially and be able to base transfer to where the flying is. That didn’t happen and there is no way to know that before coming to class. This place is a QOL **** hole.
Lots of 145 flying moving to ORD and DFW. Pretty sure you could transfer at least to ORD.
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Old 10-18-2018 | 02:32 PM
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The devil is in the details, and if you’ve looked at our contract than you know that there are A LOT of details.
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Old 10-18-2018 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by havick206
Lots of 145 flying moving to ORD and DFW. Pretty sure you could transfer at least to ORD.
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Old 10-18-2018 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by in2deep
This place is a QOL **** hole.
It helps if you think of this place, not as a "job," but as a..."project."
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