Envoy Air don’t come here
10-19-2018 | 01:03 PM
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Very true. Even though you can typically proffer out of it you are always left with it hanging over your head until 5/6pm. This makes it uncommutable for some people. This makes for either a really late night and early morning or a really long day. I remember commuting for a RAP 2 getting there at 7 am and the subsequently being assigned an airport standby at three pm. I was at the airport from 5am until 11 pm. It was fun. Now I'm based at home on reserve. My wife asked me last week if I got fired and didn't want to tell her.
10-19-2018 | 01:10 PM
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If anyone is coming here expecting fantastic QOL they are kidding themselves. The hiring wave has passed. Now a steady stream of movement is here and if you get sent down the wrong stream your QOL could be severely impacted. People coming here should know this.
10-19-2018 | 03:52 PM
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I think the crap QOL is more upsetting when awesome QOL is available here and you share a crew room with guys who are enjoying it, but you rolled the dice and lost.
That said, in my mind all the problems here are present in one form or one degree or another at most regionals for most people.
Except not flying. That's kind of rare for a new hire FO in 2018. The year I've wasted commuting to reserve and never getting called could mean 10 years of lost seniority if it means I get hired (or flow) after the AA retirement/hiring wave instead of before/during. That's what upsets me most.
That said, in my mind all the problems here are present in one form or one degree or another at most regionals for most people.
Except not flying. That's kind of rare for a new hire FO in 2018. The year I've wasted commuting to reserve and never getting called could mean 10 years of lost seniority if it means I get hired (or flow) after the AA retirement/hiring wave instead of before/during. That's what upsets me most.
10-19-2018 | 04:24 PM
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Except not flying. That's kind of rare for a new hire FO in 2018. The year I've wasted commuting to reserve and never getting called could mean 10 years of lost seniority if it means I get hired (or flow) after the AA retirement/hiring wave instead of before/during. That's what upsets me most.
10-19-2018 | 06:02 PM
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Except not flying. That's kind of rare for a new hire FO in 2018. The year I've wasted commuting to reserve and never getting called could mean 10 years of lost seniority if it means I get hired (or flow) after the AA retirement/hiring wave instead of before/during. That's what upsets me most.
10-19-2018 | 06:12 PM
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You do realize it costs a lot to have guys sitting around un-productive not flying.
10-19-2018 | 06:13 PM
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10-19-2018 | 06:27 PM
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10-19-2018 | 06:39 PM
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10-19-2018 | 07:13 PM
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In my opinion, either AA wants Envoy to keep a bunch of surplus regional FO's around so that competitors can't have them in a pilot shortage play, or the far more likely alternative -- Envoy has a lot of incompetent decisionmakers.
Ever tried to drop reserve days when you're number 40+ on the reserve list and unlikely to get called unless they staff every flight during your shift with reserves? Denied due to staffing. Lol. I'd be happy as a clam if I got a 4 month unpaid LOA to go do international travel, and it would benefit everyone. I get my abysmal but extremely expensive health insurance and to goof off, and Envoy holds onto me without having to pay me. Naturally, this is a flat no. Due to staffing.
Ever tried to drop reserve days when you're number 40+ on the reserve list and unlikely to get called unless they staff every flight during your shift with reserves? Denied due to staffing. Lol. I'd be happy as a clam if I got a 4 month unpaid LOA to go do international travel, and it would benefit everyone. I get my abysmal but extremely expensive health insurance and to goof off, and Envoy holds onto me without having to pay me. Naturally, this is a flat no. Due to staffing.
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