Envoy Air don’t come here
10-19-2018, 01:03 PM
#51
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Originally Posted by Folove
Are new reserve rules coming out anytime soon? Commuting a day prior to your schedule reserve days is killer. It really makes you have 8-9 days off a month.
10-19-2018, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RomeoBravo
^^This^^. So many people are enjoying the ride here.
If you came here between late 2016 and early 2017 it’s been a sweet ride.
Driving to work as a FO and will drive to work as a CA.... priceless.
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If you came here between late 2016 and early 2017 it’s been a sweet ride.
Driving to work as a FO and will drive to work as a CA.... priceless.
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10-19-2018, 03:52 PM
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I think the crap QOL is more upsetting when awesome QOL is available here and you share a crew room with guys who are enjoying it, but you rolled the dice and lost.
That said, in my mind all the problems here are present in one form or one degree or another at most regionals for most people.
Except not flying. That's kind of rare for a new hire FO in 2018. The year I've wasted commuting to reserve and never getting called could mean 10 years of lost seniority if it means I get hired (or flow) after the AA retirement/hiring wave instead of before/during. That's what upsets me most.
That said, in my mind all the problems here are present in one form or one degree or another at most regionals for most people.
Except not flying. That's kind of rare for a new hire FO in 2018. The year I've wasted commuting to reserve and never getting called could mean 10 years of lost seniority if it means I get hired (or flow) after the AA retirement/hiring wave instead of before/during. That's what upsets me most.
10-19-2018, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
Except not flying. That's kind of rare for a new hire FO in 2018. The year I've wasted commuting to reserve and never getting called could mean 10 years of lost seniority if it means I get hired (or flow) after the AA retirement/hiring wave instead of before/during. That's what upsets me most.
10-19-2018, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
Except not flying. That's kind of rare for a new hire FO in 2018. The year I've wasted commuting to reserve and never getting called could mean 10 years of lost seniority if it means I get hired (or flow) after the AA retirement/hiring wave instead of before/during. That's what upsets me most.
10-19-2018, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotPete4You
Not an accident. We will have to force their hand in RSV...it’s a retention strategy. Nobody leaves within 1-2 years of flowing. Keep folks unhirerable until that point. Duh
You do realize it costs a lot to have guys sitting around un-productive not flying.
10-19-2018, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotPete4You
Not an accident. We will have to force their hand in RSV...it’s a retention strategy. Nobody leaves within 1-2 years of flowing. Keep folks unhirerable until that point. Duh
10-19-2018, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by havick206
Wow, how many layers of tin foil is your hat?
You do realize it costs a lot to have guys sitting around un-productive not flying.
You do realize it costs a lot to have guys sitting around un-productive not flying.
10-19-2018, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
My wife asked me last week if I got fired and didn't want to tell her.
10-19-2018, 07:13 PM
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In my opinion, either AA wants Envoy to keep a bunch of surplus regional FO's around so that competitors can't have them in a pilot shortage play, or the far more likely alternative -- Envoy has a lot of incompetent decisionmakers.
Ever tried to drop reserve days when you're number 40+ on the reserve list and unlikely to get called unless they staff every flight during your shift with reserves? Denied due to staffing. Lol. I'd be happy as a clam if I got a 4 month unpaid LOA to go do international travel, and it would benefit everyone. I get my abysmal but extremely expensive health insurance and to goof off, and Envoy holds onto me without having to pay me. Naturally, this is a flat no. Due to staffing.
Ever tried to drop reserve days when you're number 40+ on the reserve list and unlikely to get called unless they staff every flight during your shift with reserves? Denied due to staffing. Lol. I'd be happy as a clam if I got a 4 month unpaid LOA to go do international travel, and it would benefit everyone. I get my abysmal but extremely expensive health insurance and to goof off, and Envoy holds onto me without having to pay me. Naturally, this is a flat no. Due to staffing.
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