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Old 10-22-2018, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruno82 View Post
Got on the line as a ORD DEC in mid-Sep. So far this month I’ve flown 31 hours. Today we were down to 0 reserves and so far tomorrow we’re down to 3.


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That is a bit misleading though. If the entire reserve list is on airport standby then it will show 0 reserves (as an example). So you can still have a decent number of reserves despite it showing 0 on the reserve list.
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Old 10-22-2018, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Skip0927 View Post
Well said Silent Lurker. I am a red blooded capitalist at heart but the short term speculative trading is killing our economy. “Investors” focus on quick gains and as such, executives want to juice quarterly profits by focusing on quick things rather than focusing on long sustain growth.
Parker has actually advocated the exact opposite numerous times on various earnings calls over the last few years.
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Old 10-22-2018, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RomeoBravo View Post
I think this is just a very ignorant point of view.

For to unilaterally state *anyone* with a 20+ seniority here should be embarrassed. It’s not black and white like that. For many of those senior folks, it indeed was luck of the draw then likely a hard decision to decide to ride it out here.
Their union leadership at the time provided gross salary calculations to them (based on APA rates at the time), that later turned out to be incorrect (looking at subsequent changes that occurred). Remember people make decisions based on the information they have at that time.
Hindsight........

Yea some indeed should have moved on. But many were just at a juncture that staying was very likely their best course of action.

My ride here for what is almost 24 months has been fantastic with no complaints, this is coming from a CRJ driver that lives in chi town.


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This^^^^^ ^^^^

His comments are at many times immature & troll worthy. So bad, I’ve wondered if it’s pure sarcasm. I like to give him the benefit of the doubt over the years I’ve read his bad posts while smh.

Many of you have heard numerous stories why CA’s bypass the flow or get stuck here at AE regional. Maybe he hasn’t gotten to know any of them.

I have the upmost respect for many of the “senior” captains! I’ve learn a great deal from their experiences as I’m sure many of you have (with exception for ). The things I’ve learned have saved my butt on the line on the line. You may not like them but they are the backbone of this airline! Period.

Large majority of the reasons they stay have nothing to do with the ignorant post posted above.

A young Immature single person not in a serious relationship, not married, nor with children, not a caretaker of a sick family member, or one who lacks empathy, or knowledge, etc., would make statements like that.

The concept of living a Family 1st lifestyle or sacrificing for the family’s moral welfare is lost to people like that. The concept that some CA’s are perfectly fine with making $100K-$120K flying a regional jet, living on a comfortable budget and enjoying a great & comfortable family lifestyle is lost to them.

Money does not make you great, money is not everything. Is a concept lost to them. We don’t take money to the grave with us. What good is money if one leaves this life with his/her kids hating them. Kids becoming brats who are financially well off, yet are horrible, unappreciative human beings... Hello????

A lot of reasons, a lot of scenarios that make plenty of sense for an individual to bypass the flow .... Be happy it works out better for you in the long run! Here’s hoping you never have to get into a real life situations like a bad divorces case one day, or a very sick or disabled family member.

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Old 10-22-2018, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SilentLurker View Post
Money does not make you great, money is not everything. Is a concept lost to them.
It's MORE about some contrived sense of "prestige" for these scrubs than it is for cash. They'd do it for HALF as much...I PROMISE you.

There are faster (MUCH faster) ways to generate a massive salary in this industry than coming to a regional and awaiting flow to a major.
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Originally Posted by SilentLurker View Post
This^^^^^ ^^^^

His comments are at many times immature & troll worthy. So bad, I’ve wondered if it’s pure sarcasm. I like to give him the benefit of the doubt over the years I’ve read his bad posts while smh.

Many of you have heard numerous stories why CA’s bypass the flow or get stuck here at AE regional. Maybe he hasn’t gotten to know any of them.

I have the upmost respect for many of the “senior” captains! I’ve learn a great deal from their experiences as I’m sure many of you have (with exception for ). The things I’ve learned have saved my butt on the line on the line. You may not like them but they are the backbone of this airline! Period.

Large majority of the reasons they stay have nothing to do with the ignorant post posted above.

A young Immature single person not in a serious relationship, not married, nor with children, not a caretaker of a sick family member, or one who lacks empathy, or knowledge, etc., would make statements like that.

The concept of living a Family 1st lifestyle or sacrificing for the family’s moral welfare is lost to people like that. The concept that some CA’s are perfectly fine with making $100K-$120K flying a regional jet, living on a comfortable budget and enjoying a great & comfortable family lifestyle is lost to them.

Money does not make you great, money is not everything. Is a concept lost to them. We don’t take money to the grave with us. What good is money if one leaves this life with his/her kids hating them. Kids becoming brats who are financially well off, yet are horrible, unappreciative human beings... Hello????

A lot of reasons, a lot of scenarios that make plenty of sense for an individual to bypass the flow .... Be happy it works out better for you in the long run! Here’s hoping you never have to get into a real life situations like a bad divorces case one day, or a very sick or disabled family member.
I think we have a winner here!
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Old 10-22-2018, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver View Post
Not opposed, Regionals are just a step to get into the majors. I really doubt that anyone goals is to retire on X Regional.

Those old farts you see around here are either rejects or they have skeletons in their closet.

Anyone with a 20 plus yr seniority should be embarrassed.









Anyone that reads your ignorant rants is embarrassed for you...
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Old 10-23-2018, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver View Post
Thats a bunch of BS. They could easily have saved some for that hit, and live within their means only for one yr.

By second yr Im betting they would've made more than they ever did here. But oh well, they will retire happily flying 5 legs a day.
And many who did/will flow will retire flying 4 legs a day, or 6+ hour leg double all-nighters, or our new and improved five-day trips, working every weekend and holiday under PBS.

QOL is worth more than $$ to many. There is a reason the #1 777 fo at AA is #385 out of 15,000.
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:37 AM
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6+ hour leg double all-nighters
I'll say this for the regional world, at least you don't have to fly all night.
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Old 10-23-2018, 02:01 PM
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Why have we spent so many words on a troll that 90% chance he doesn't actually believe what he post.
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Old 10-23-2018, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President View Post
Why have we spent so many words on a troll that 90% chance he doesn't actually believe what he post.
I’m convinced its a lifer captain here that just likes mess with everyone and get you all worked up.
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