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Old 11-10-2018 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jriveraaw
Back in 2016, I interviewed with envoy hoping to get into their cadet program, they said I couldn’t because I was working for a state flight school as a cfi. When I went, at the time they were in fact projecting 3 year flows for the current new hires. It has quite obviously since changed.

But like I said, flows may not be important to some, but it’s a nice thing for me. I don’t have any resume issues, no 121 failures, I have a 4 year degree, prior military, 141 asst chief/check instructor, haven’t even gotten so much as a speeding ticket in the past 15 years, not really anything negative on my resume. But I do live in central Texas, therefore a Texas based company is beneficial. Envoy to AA is preferred, but republic (no flow) and then maybe United is also a possibility.
They never predicted a 3 year flow. Maybe a 3 year upgrade is what they meant.
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Old 11-10-2018 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptJackSparrow
They never predicted a 3 year flow. Maybe a 3 year upgrade is what they meant.
Agreed. 2016 was a 6 year flow 2-3 year upgrade.
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Old 11-10-2018 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jriveraaw
Back in 2016, I interviewed with envoy hoping to get into their cadet program, they said I couldn’t because I was working for a state flight school as a cfi. When I went, at the time they were in fact projecting 3 year flows for the current new hires. It has quite obviously since changed.

But like I said, flows may not be important to some, but it’s a nice thing for me. I don’t have any resume issues, no 121 failures, I have a 4 year degree, prior military, 141 asst chief/check instructor, haven’t even gotten so much as a speeding ticket in the past 15 years, not really anything negative on my resume. But I do live in central Texas, therefore a Texas based company is beneficial. Envoy to AA is preferred, but republic (no flow) and then maybe United is also a possibility.
What about Skywest? I imagine Mesa is off the table. But they each have DFW bases.
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Old 11-10-2018 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamesthunder
What about Skywest? I imagine Mesa is off the table. But they each have DFW bases.
I thought about SkyWest, but a few things concerned me a little, one of those is no union. Plus I’m pretty sure, probably wrong, but they fly the crj 200 outta dfw, and I’d rather set myself on fire than fly it.

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Old 11-10-2018 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptJackSparrow
They never predicted a 3 year flow. Maybe a 3 year upgrade is what they meant.
I don’t know what to tell you. If I could find that little pamphlet thing they gave me, I’d gladly send a picture of it. If that differs from other or actual projections, then sure, it probably wasn’t that short of time.
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Old 11-10-2018 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jriveraaw
I thought about SkyWest, but a few things concerned me a little, one of those is no union. Plus I’m pretty sure, probably wrong, but they fly the crj 200 outta dfw, and I’d rather set myself on fire than fly it.
For no union they get paid better than us now, and I could be wrong but they're supposed to get a minimum day credit now. So you get 4 hours even if you fly two.
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Old 11-10-2018 | 07:46 PM
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For no union they get paid better than us now, and I could be wrong but they're supposed to get a minimum day credit now. So you get 4 hours even if you fly two.
I hear they’re a good company but after my experience with Mesa, it would be difficult to go to an airline without a union. And last I heard they get paid actual time out instead of block time or greater like most other airlines.
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Old 11-10-2018 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jriveraaw
I hear they’re a good company but after my experience with Mesa, it would be difficult to go to an airline without a union. And last I heard they get paid actual time out instead of block time or greater like most other airlines.
Ok I need to clear some stuff up because the misinformation is bad.

1. SkyWest DFW base is CRJ 700 only, there is one 200 flight but thats staffed out of ORD. Btw, not to be a jerk, but deciding where to go based on not wanting to fly a CRJ 200 is ridiculous.

2. SkyWest gets paid block or better like every company except the “or better” part is derived from historical flight times and not advertised block. If the credit is 2:00 on the trip sheet and we block 1:30, we get 2:00. If we block 2:30 we get 2:30.
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Old 11-10-2018 | 09:10 PM
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Ok I need to clear some stuff up because the misinformation is bad.

1. SkyWest DFW base is CRJ 700 only, there is one 200 flight but thats staffed out of ORD. Btw, not to be a jerk, but deciding where to go based on not wanting to fly a CRJ 200 is ridiculous.

2. SkyWest gets paid block or better like every company except the “or better” part is derived from historical flight times and not advertised block. If the credit is 2:00 on the trip sheet and we block 1:30, we get 2:00. If we block 2:30 we get 2:30.







OO doesn't get paid "block or better like every company", it's historical credit or better.
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Old 11-11-2018 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by UnderCenter
Ok I need to clear some stuff up because the misinformation is bad.

1. SkyWest DFW base is CRJ 700 only, there is one 200 flight but thats staffed out of ORD. Btw, not to be a jerk, but deciding where to go based on not wanting to fly a CRJ 200 is ridiculous.

2. SkyWest gets paid block or better like every company except the “or better” part is derived from historical flight times and not advertised block. If the credit is 2:00 on the trip sheet and we block 1:30, we get 2:00. If we block 2:30 we get 2:30.
Wait, deciding what company you want to work for based on the aircraft they fly is ridiculous?? Since when? Because I’m pretty sure that is a huge factor in probably everyone’s decision.
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