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12-15-2018 | 07:19 AM

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3EngineTaxi

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Troll Thread...

Guys, this is a troll thread. E175Driver just loves to post silly things to get people riled up. It's not real.

That being said, everyone should have his applications out and update them regularly. It's rare but not impossible to get hired at a major long before the flow.

12-15-2018 | 08:14 AM

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AA or another mainline carrier?

AA

Filler...

12-15-2018 | 08:54 AM

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It's rare but not impossible to get hired at a major long before the flow.

If by ‘major’ you mean AA, then I agree. AA doesn’t hire a lot of non-flow/non-military so yeah it’s rare.

But if you really meant any major, it’s only rare because so few pilots here are actively working to get to a major. Flow has made this pilot group very complacent.

12-15-2018 | 09:11 AM

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I’m projected to flow in another 3 years. Currently with 2000TT, 1000TT in 121 and zero PIC. Please let me know which of these “activities” I should pursue that will realistically get me to “any major” long before the flow. Emphasis on realistic.

12-15-2018 | 09:19 AM

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Check airman and PIC 121 time and actively updating your app/hours at the end of each trip seems to be the secret sauce. Having a connect via networking is also key.

12-15-2018 | 10:35 AM

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Check airman and PIC 121 time and actively updating your app/hours at the end of each trip seems to be the secret sauce. Having a connect via networking is also key.

And a 4 year degree.

12-15-2018 | 11:06 AM

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And a 4 year degree.

I think this may be the case here, but not sure. Some think they will flow before they can get it or just too lazy.

12-15-2018 | 11:31 AM

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I usually ask the captains i fly with if they have their apps out and they usually say yes. I then ask when the last time they updated their apps. They hem and hah until finally settling on "it s been a few months".

In other words, they are being complacent. Which, for them, means they will flow before they are hired. But it doesnt mean it has to be the same for everyone.

12-15-2018 | 02:27 PM

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So when do you upgrade? If you have been at Envoy and have 1000 hours you should be upgrading. Taking the standing bid MAY NOT be the quickest way to 121 PIC time. But the thing you could have controlled was ACTIVELY picking up as much OT as possible and transferring to the base that gives you the most seniority. The same is true with upgrade. PREFERENCE bid to the base and equipment that gives you the most seniority. More relative seniority is the only thing you can really control but may have to be willing to sacrifice to get it. Same with picking up OT. Did you take your vacation, or work it?

You have to have 300 hours PIC to be an IOE Instructor.

12-15-2018 | 06:31 PM

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If he did get picked up by AA, then E175Driver got picked up without 121 PIC time and relatively short time in 121 world. My belief was that this is not common. Anyone else know of someone with same/similar experience getting to a legacy carrier without 121 PIC time? If so, what's the magic formula?