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Old 12-15-2018, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Rakk6 View Post
If he did get picked up by AA, then E175Driver got picked up without 121 PIC time and relatively short time in 121 world. My belief was that this is not common. Anyone else know of someone with same/similar experience getting to a legacy carrier without 121 PIC time? If so, what's the magic formula?
I was talking about majors, not legacy. THAT is the most important point to take from what I said and you seem to be hearing. However...

1) 175Driver can correct me if I’m wrong but I could have sworn I saw a post or two a while back indicating he upgarded to 145 captain. That would not only make him captain with PIC but give him another major training event (hiring departments like recent long term training) and also an extra type rating (can’t hurt).

2) Legacy Delta has hired from the right seat. However, I do not know what gets the interview for them. I have an application with them and would run there if called but it’s not a primary target for me.

3) If you work with a hiring consultant, they will tell you that AA is the hardest one to figure out. What seems to work one month will not work next month. All you can do is put yourself in the best position possible and hope you get the call. And by the way, part of putting yourself in the best position possible involves updating your application often.

Ultimately, you don’t know if you don’t try. And so many here don’t even seem to be truely trying. And then those same people complain when they see someone hired OTS ‘out of seniority order’.
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Old 12-15-2018, 08:07 PM
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Uh, AA says openly at events that they look for 1000 hrs. m/e turbine PIC.
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Old 12-15-2018, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator View Post
Uh, AA says openly at events that they look for 1000 hrs. m/e turbine PIC.
Only matters if you’re AA or bust.

AND

Not everyone comes here with 0 m/e turbine PIC.
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Old 12-15-2018, 08:48 PM
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Well at least if 175 driver is telling the truth we will find out he is. Just look at the new hire list for the next couple of months and when you see someone from envoy not part of flow we know it's him.
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Old 12-15-2018, 08:54 PM
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Well at least if 175 driver is telling the truth we will find out he is. Just look at the new hire list for the next couple of months and when you see someone from envoy not part of flow we know it's him.
Eh?
There's quite a few Envoy guys going to AA outside the flow.
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Old 12-15-2018, 10:05 PM
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It was educational. Don’t sit around waiting on flow. A LOT of pilots at this airline need to learn that lesson.


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Old 12-15-2018, 10:09 PM
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so an regional pilot goes to a Big-3 ?


isn't that what is supposed to happen ?


this is news now ?


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Old 12-15-2018, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BarrySeal View Post
so an regional pilot goes to a Big-3 ?


isn't that what is supposed to happen ?


this is news now ?


Well the confusion comes from the fact that this post is from our resident troll. Is he trolling or did he actually get hired?
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Old 12-16-2018, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
Eh?
There's quite a few Envoy guys going to AA outside the flow.
Not really. 19 in 2018 6 in 2017 and 11 in 2016 according to a recent company email.
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Old 12-16-2018, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast View Post
I was talking about majors, not legacy. THAT is the most important point to take from what I said and you seem to be hearing. However...

1) 175Driver can correct me if I’m wrong but I could have sworn I saw a post or two a while back indicating he upgarded to 145 captain. That would not only make him captain with PIC but give him another major training event (hiring departments like recent long term training) and also an extra type rating (can’t hurt).

2) Legacy Delta has hired from the right seat. However, I do not know what gets the interview for them. I have an application with them and would run there if called but it’s not a primary target for me.

3) If you work with a hiring consultant, they will tell you that AA is the hardest one to figure out. What seems to work one month will not work next month. All you can do is put yourself in the best position possible and hope you get the call. And by the way, part of putting yourself in the best position possible involves updating your application often.

Ultimately, you don’t know if you don’t try. And so many here don’t even seem to be truely trying. And then those same people complain when they see someone hired OTS ‘out of seniority order’.
Don't discount the LCCs. Jetblue, Spirit, Allegiant and now Frontier. Those options can provide you a quick exit from Envoy and boost your resume with recent training and an Airbus type.

I left for Allegiant primarily to have the ability to drive to work. I got hired there at the right time and moved to the left seat of the Bus right at the 1 year mark. I updated all of my apps weekly from that point and eventually received a call from Delta. They hired me and at that time I had a little over 400 121 PIC. All in the Bus at Allegiant.

My time at Envoy helped with the resume but I had planned to stay long term at Allegiant and never thought Delta would look at me so early. During the interview, they were impressed with the recency of my training. Initial at Allegiant in the Bus and upgrade 1 year later.

All that to say. Don't bank on this flow. And don't discount the LCCs. Once I had transitioned to Allegiant, the treatment of the pilot group was far more professional than anything I ever had at Envoy.
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