Envoy 2019
01-10-2019 | 10:27 AM
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You are right. Very few understand the process. Because preferencing DOES increase your odds of getting what you want.
There were those that could have gotten what the wanted had they preferenced but did not because they only had displacements listed.
And if you aren’t changing equipment, you aren’t eligible for the 5 hour override. If NOBODY preferenced it would work. As much as I, too, don’t think anyone should preference, all those guys in the 175 who HAVE to stay in the the 175 are doing the right thing (for them) with a preference.
There were those that could have gotten what the wanted had they preferenced but did not because they only had displacements listed.
And if you aren’t changing equipment, you aren’t eligible for the 5 hour override. If NOBODY preferenced it would work. As much as I, too, don’t think anyone should preference, all those guys in the 175 who HAVE to stay in the the 175 are doing the right thing (for them) with a preference.
So your saying reading the gists and points from ALPA emails about bidding & also occasionally following what’s being discussed on APC by fellow pilots & crew room talk, and terminal discussions over coffee time has its benefits?????
Awesome! $8-9K value.
01-10-2019 | 11:33 AM
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01-10-2019 | 12:52 PM
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01-10-2019 | 02:00 PM
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So long as there are displacements of all eligible FOs, it does not increase your odds. Read the contract section about simultaneous vacancy and displacement. When it tells you to reference the section on displacements, and you actually go back and read, you will understand that a displaced pilot will be able to displace to what he can hold regardless of preference bids below him/her.
01-10-2019 | 02:00 PM
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I mean they could say that every single year. But what they actually get, we shall see. I personally truly hope they do. But I'm getting worried as we start falling behind in pay. As of the last NewsBlast on 12/7, we had a net gain for the year of 126 pilots, which is great. It means of the 638 hired in that list we had a lot of movement. I just hope we can stay on course and the well of RTP/Cadet guys isn't drying up while everyone else who hasn't signed a contract goes to other carriers with higher pay. At some point I feel like that well is going to dry, and I'm hoping it's not 2019.
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