Envoy 2019
01-11-2019, 01:37 PM
#171
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2112
How is that possible when DEC’s were just displaced on the prelim to ORD from NYC
01-11-2019, 02:20 PM
#174
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
Also, is there really 10 senior FO guys that didn't get forced to upgrade? If so this may be a savage move made by the company on purpose. Those senior FOs have to be a CA for one year before they can flow. So if the company doesn't force them to upgrade then the flow will.
I keep getting conflicting answers on this. Most say that rule only applied to the protected pilot group.
01-11-2019, 02:25 PM
#175
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Originally Posted by CrowneVic
Is there really a requirement to have been a CA for a year in order to flow for the newest hires/non-protected pilot group?
I keep getting conflicting answers on this. Most say that rule only applied to the protected pilot group.
I keep getting conflicting answers on this. Most say that rule only applied to the protected pilot group.
Edit: I just went and looked it up again. LOA 18-01, which is the flow grievance settlement for the protected pilots, is where this is. While this LOA is all about the protected pilots, the language in part 6 that establishes the one year of captain status requirement says "all Envoy pilots". We are a ways out from seeing how this will be enforced.
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01-11-2019, 02:28 PM
#176
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What initial aircraft bid seniority would someone who has worked at envoy as a baggage handler for the past two years who now is ready to transfer to be a pilot. I know its cadets, 121, then everyone else. Where would they fit in?
01-11-2019, 02:53 PM
#177
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Originally Posted by Vapor Lock
What initial aircraft bid seniority would someone who has worked at envoy as a baggage handler for the past two years who now is ready to transfer to be a pilot. I know its cadets, 121, then everyone else. Where would they fit in?
01-11-2019, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CrowneVic
Is there really a requirement to have been a CA for a year in order to flow for the newest hires/non-protected pilot group?
I keep getting conflicting answers on this. Most say that rule only applied to the protected pilot group.
I keep getting conflicting answers on this. Most say that rule only applied to the protected pilot group.
01-11-2019, 04:41 PM
#180
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Originally Posted by moon
I think he is mistaken as OCE is the only standing vacancy that was just emailed out. DECs can only go to a standing vacancy if I remember correctly so they will all be OCE.
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