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Old 01-11-2019, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast View Post
Been a while since I read the LOA but my memory of it is effective this month, ALL flows will hold captain status for one year.

Edit: I just went and looked it up again. LOA 18-01, which is the flow grievance settlement for the protected pilots, is where this is. While this LOA is all about the protected pilots, the language in part 6 that establishes the one year of captain status requirement says "all Envoy pilots". We are a ways out from seeing how this will be enforced.
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For those needing further clarification:
The letter is titled: First Officer Advancement LOA, May 15, 2018

Section 6 states:
6. Eligibility for flow to American

In order to identify the Envoy pilots who will be offered New Pilot Positions at American Airlines in any particular training class, Envoy will identify the most senior pilots who are in active status or expected to be in active status as of the first day of the applicable


training class. Beginning January 1, 2019, An Envoy pilot will only be eligible to be offered a New Pilot Position at American if the Envoy pilot holds or has held a Captain status at Envoy and prior to flowing to AA the pilot must have satisfied a one-year training freeze in accordance with Section 15.J.2. The requirement to satisfy a one-year training freeze, as specified in this paragraph, does not apply to Captains who are displaced. Envoy may waive the training freeze requirement in its sole discretion.
Envoy may, in its sole discretion, use a web-based or other electronic means by which Envoy pilots accept offers of New Pilot Positions with American.
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Vapor Lock View Post
What initial aircraft bid seniority would someone who has worked at envoy as a baggage handler for the past two years who now is ready to transfer to be a pilot. I know its cadets, 121, then everyone else. Where would they fit in?
Holding company seniority won't do anything for you regarding pilot bid seniority. It's a workgroup change for you so in Flight Operations, you would hold seniority relative to your class. Just as a Pilot going to Airport Operations for a Ramp position, he/she won't get any priority when it comes to schedules.
Your company seniority will provide you with additional vacation that you've already accrued as compared to those in your class that have no company seniority.

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Old 01-11-2019, 07:56 PM
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What’s the average class size and how close to being first to pick would A current 121 pilot with a few hundred 121 time be? DFW is nice, ORD is fine 175 is preferable because to my understanding it’s only ORD/DFW. commuting to LGA would be outrageously painful.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mundergun View Post
What’s the average class size and how close to being first to pick would A current 121 pilot with a few hundred 121 time be? DFW is nice, ORD is fine 175 is preferable because to my understanding it’s only ORD/DFW. commuting to LGA would be outrageously painful.
Around 30. You should be alright.
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Old 01-12-2019, 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by havick206 View Post
Yes, unless you are displaced to CA in which case you just have to finish your CA fed ride to flow.
Thanks for the correction.

Thanks RB for posting the LOA.
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Old 01-12-2019, 06:35 AM
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So now, that we awarded, how soon until our actual CA pay reflects in our Envoy Profile? I’m still seeing the FO rate. (I’m probably being too hasty lol)
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Old 01-12-2019, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jujuman View Post
So now, that we awarded, how soon until our actual CA pay reflects in our Envoy Profile? I’m still seeing the FO rate. (I’m probably being too hasty lol)
Nope, you can bet your ass every one of us senior FOs are wondering the same thing haha
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Old 01-12-2019, 07:20 AM
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My friend just got the displacement and he said the normal rate will be paid on time, and at the end of the month an adjustment will make up the difference. Your OT should be paid at CA rate OT, there are rumors that this was not the case. The following month after the award the pay should be normalized at the CA rate. I would expect your employee “profile” to lag behind this whole process. But the direct deposits are, let’s say, controlling.

Ask me next bid and I’ll know for sure, until then, Vee-1 rotate!
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Old 01-12-2019, 09:50 AM
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So how exactly does the volunary seat lock for pay?
Example: say I actually credit 80 hours and I have the VSL 5 hr. Will I get paid 85?
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Old 01-12-2019, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by inevitableneb View Post
So how exactly does the volunary seat lock for pay?
Example: say I actually credit 80 hours and I have the VSL 5 hr. Will I get paid 85?
Don’t think of it as flight hours.

It won’t show as flight hours but as a separate line item on your pay sheet.
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