Envoy 2019
#201
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Envoy 2019
Okay, I should have been more specific . I emailed C. Kxxxer, she’s responsible for Pilot Pay Rates, Pay Protection and Pilot Pay Banding. I referred to her as Pay Comp only to reference that general group. But yea, she’s the Envoy contact that is essentially responsible for the pay change when you volunteer for the seat lock.
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#202
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. No, I upgraded prior to this most recent January vacancy award.
I’m checking now.
I do think it would help if they put out an example of what pilots should specifically look for to confirm they are receiving the extra pay for volunteering for the seat lock.
You send RF VOL1, you send email but no one
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#203
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is correct.
For those needing further clarification:
The letter is titled: First Officer Advancement LOA, May 15, 2018
Section 6 states:
6. Eligibility for flow to American
In order to identify the Envoy pilots who will be offered New Pilot Positions at American Airlines in any particular training class, Envoy will identify the most senior pilots who are in active status or expected to be in active status as of the first day of the applicable
training class. Beginning January 1, 2019, An Envoy pilot will only be eligible to be offered a New Pilot Position at American if the Envoy pilot holds or has held a Captain status at Envoy and prior to flowing to AA the pilot must have satisfied a one-year training freeze in accordance with Section 15.J.2. The requirement to satisfy a one-year training freeze, as specified in this paragraph, does not apply to Captains who are displaced. Envoy may waive the training freeze requirement in its sole discretion.
Envoy may, in its sole discretion, use a web-based or other electronic means by which Envoy pilots accept offers of New Pilot Positions with American.
For those needing further clarification:
The letter is titled: First Officer Advancement LOA, May 15, 2018
Section 6 states:
6. Eligibility for flow to American
In order to identify the Envoy pilots who will be offered New Pilot Positions at American Airlines in any particular training class, Envoy will identify the most senior pilots who are in active status or expected to be in active status as of the first day of the applicable
training class. Beginning January 1, 2019, An Envoy pilot will only be eligible to be offered a New Pilot Position at American if the Envoy pilot holds or has held a Captain status at Envoy and prior to flowing to AA the pilot must have satisfied a one-year training freeze in accordance with Section 15.J.2. The requirement to satisfy a one-year training freeze, as specified in this paragraph, does not apply to Captains who are displaced. Envoy may waive the training freeze requirement in its sole discretion.
Envoy may, in its sole discretion, use a web-based or other electronic means by which Envoy pilots accept offers of New Pilot Positions with American.
#205
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. Have you read the said LOA in its entirety?
There are several sections, it’s not only about giving flying to FOs on RSV that have 850hrs of 121 time or more for the purposes of forcing them to upgrade.
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#206
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Have YOU read the title of Letter 18-01? Because you quoted it wrong.
Does Letter 18-01 discuss giving open sequences to FOs for upgrade? Hint: It doesn't.
#207
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: I stand corrected.
The eligibility for flow to American is section 6 under the “Grievance Settlement in the Matter of FLO Grievances”.
For the question asked I did quote the wrong source however, the message is correct in that, in order to FLOW TO AMERICAN, it’s required to be a CA now
I had too many LOA’s/Agreements open at the same time.
Nonetheless, good catch on your part.
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. No, I upgraded prior to this most recent January vacancy award.
I’m checking now.
I do think it would help if they put out an example of what pilots should specifically look for to confirm they are receiving the extra pay for volunteering for the seat lock.
You send RF VOL1, you send email but no one
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I’m checking now.
I do think it would help if they put out an example of what pilots should specifically look for to confirm they are receiving the extra pay for volunteering for the seat lock.
You send RF VOL1, you send email but no one
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Again, they have to be able to show you how to find it, so just email pay comp to get the affirmative answer. Just remember it can take 7 days or so to process and another 1-2 pay periods to actually show up.
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Yeah they don't make it easy to find. The easiest thing to do would be contact pay comp and ask them to show you when and were it was placed. For example, when they opened up ORD to the E75, that pay override wasn't listed under something obvious. You had to go to your activity sheet for that month and look for a 5 hour extra pay that wasn't supposed to be there from your line. Think is was SAABVGUR something, if I remember.
Again, they have to be able to show you how to find it, so just email pay comp to get the affirmative answer. Just remember it can take 7 days or so to process and another 1-2 pay periods to actually show up.
Again, they have to be able to show you how to find it, so just email pay comp to get the affirmative answer. Just remember it can take 7 days or so to process and another 1-2 pay periods to actually show up.
Spot on ma guy . It does show up in the Activity Sheet.
For those like me that don’t pay attention to your Activity Sheet, it’s eye work trying to find it.
My pay comp auditor did respond and she highlighted where in the Activity Sheet it was.
I know, I’ll hear “what you don’t look at your pay in detail”..... No I don’t... sure I’m probably leaving money on the table but so far I feel like it’s all correct
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