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Old 02-11-2019 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DreadWing
Provable nonsense. "Passing training" is something the VAST majority of the pilot stock is rather good at. It is not exceptional by any accepted definition, and therefore CANNOT be the "#1 deciding factor" by major airlines.
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Old 02-11-2019 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Rg11
Another person who thinks their experiences are unique to their past.
There's no evidence that I suggested it was "unique;" only that I suggested it was overlooked in alignment with a clear, longstanding bias towards military aviators.

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You don’t think that military pilots fly busted up, antiquated aircraft that guzzle fuel with maintenance issues through horrendous weather in the dark, simply surviving (some colleagues did not) while passing sim and flight check rides, avoiding getting violated, while learning when to push back?
Certainly. Now comes the question of frequency: how much time was spent behind desks saddled with management tasks for the air wing at the expense of flight time? What did they average a month? Ten hours? Fifteen? You think a retiree exiting the service after twenty years with 3000 hours TOTAL TIME is in the same league? Christ.

We're talking about DIFFERENT professions any way you cut it and, in addition to that, which background is more relevant (and beneficial) to operating transport category aircraft for an air carrier. My argument for the REASON behind this clearly unjust bias is that they're looking to hire future management...that's all.
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Old 02-11-2019 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bh539
You definitely can but I don't think the #1 deciding factor for hiring is how likely they are to pass training.
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Old 02-11-2019 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DreadWing
There's no evidence that I suggested it was "unique;" only that I suggested...


This implies it was unique and that non military pilots did not experience it:

“....1000% more ‘relevant’ in comparison to ANYTHING the military has to offer airlines. I don’t care what the job was”
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Old 02-11-2019 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Rg11
This implies it was unique and that non military pilots did not experience it:

“....1000% more ‘relevant’ in comparison to ANYTHING the military has to offer airlines. I don’t care what the job was”
Yeah, so I should have realized night cargo and military are basically the...same job? Come on.

Two different professions with some LIMITED overlap do not make for identical experiences.
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Old 02-11-2019 | 10:42 AM
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I'm gonna end this debate once and for all. The ones who the airlines like to hire the most, are...........
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ENLISTED GUYS!

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Old 02-11-2019 | 12:47 PM
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sorre Im late had to get enough popcorn for all of us.jpg ..........
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Old 02-11-2019 | 02:08 PM
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Giving years of military service to this country, while being prepared to die for it, shows all the character that a company needs to know about you. Flying is the easy part and they can train just about anybody to fly within their standards.

Preference is given to veterans in almost every industry in the USA.

By the way, it’s not too late to go join up with the Army..
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Old 02-11-2019 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeTang
Giving years of military service to this country, while being prepared to die for it, shows all the character that a company needs to know about you. Flying is the easy part and they can train just about anybody to fly within their standards.

Preference is given to veterans in almost every industry in the USA.

By the way, it’s not too late to go join up with the Army..
The military has some great people and some absolute garbage humans in it. It's not a league of saints.

The slobbering over the .mil is largely an American concept. In other countries people in the military are often viewed as being on government welfare, which it is.
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Old 02-11-2019 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeTang
Giving years of military service to this country, while being prepared to die for it, shows all the character that a company needs to know about you. Flying is the easy part and they can train just about anybody to fly within their standards.

As for character I have met amazing doodles and I have met some very shady, very unsavory and very non professional ones. Please don’t act like just signing up gives you some superiority of character over those that haven’t.

Preference is given to veterans in almost every industry in the USA.

By the way, it’s not too late to go join up with the Army..
I tried three times, couldn’t due to medical and then age, none of which had to do with flying. Please don’t start that defense. Just because one hasn’t doesn’t mean they wouldn’t.

So should fire fighters and police also get preferential hiring? They risk their lives everyday for their entire careers for our country.
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