New PSA Pilot Pay Agreement
04-16-2019, 02:22 PM
#231
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Originally Posted by Jma313
AA isn’t going to let a disparity happen for long amongst the three. Personally I see PDT getting a raise next then Envoy. Per the PSA MEC the company came to the union with rates and there wasn’t much negotiating done. Took the money and ran.
This seems like the case. We will hold out for as long as possible
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04-16-2019, 04:21 PM
#232
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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue
I actually really am optimistic that we will get the pay rates...and on a much shorter timeline than anyone expects. I have no insider information, but having spent 5 years at AA HDQ, I know how they manage the 3 WOs - and frankly I’m not sure that Envoy could even prevent AA from saying ‘give your pilots x’ as that’s what it seems AA offered PSA management.
Additionally, when Eric was in the DFW crew room Thursday - he made it clear that discussions this week were trilateral, between AA, ENY MEC and ENY mgmt.
Additionally, when Eric was in the DFW crew room Thursday - he made it clear that discussions this week were trilateral, between AA, ENY MEC and ENY mgmt.
04-16-2019, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue
I actually really am optimistic that we will get the pay rates...and on a much shorter timeline than anyone expects. I have no insider information, but having spent 5 years at AA HDQ, I know how they manage the 3 WOs - and frankly I’m not sure that Envoy could even prevent AA from saying ‘give your pilots x’ as that’s what it seems AA offered PSA management.
Additionally, when Eric was in the DFW crew room Thursday - he made it clear that discussions this week were trilateral, between AA, ENY MEC and ENY mgmt.
Additionally, when Eric was in the DFW crew room Thursday - he made it clear that discussions this week were trilateral, between AA, ENY MEC and ENY mgmt.
04-16-2019, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by griff312
I'm not buying into that much at all. AAG lit the green light for Envoy pay raises a year ago, but our own management said that as long as classes kept filling up, they saw no immediate need to raise pay
True statement
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04-17-2019, 11:39 AM
#237
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Originally Posted by cbrpilot
pat came to the dfw crew room yesterday (15apr) for about 45 minutes. Envoy management wants to sit down this week to talk about the raises. Talk only, not negotiate. pat expects the meeting to occur tomorrow (17apr), and expects a recap email to the pilot group next monday (22apr).
Other discussion revolved around mid-day rest assignment, fatigue calls, extensions, etc. Maybe someone that was also here will chime in on his talk with us to fill my gaps.
Other discussion revolved around mid-day rest assignment, fatigue calls, extensions, etc. Maybe someone that was also here will chime in on his talk with us to fill my gaps.
04-17-2019, 02:10 PM
#238
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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue
I actually really am optimistic that we will get the pay rates...and on a much shorter timeline than anyone expects. I have no insider information, but having spent 5 years at AA HDQ, I know how they manage the 3 WOs - and frankly I’m not sure that Envoy could even prevent AA from saying ‘give your pilots x’ as that’s what it seems AA offered PSA management.
Additionally, when Eric was in the DFW crew room Thursday - he made it clear that discussions this week were trilateral, between AA, ENY MEC and ENY mgmt.
Additionally, when Eric was in the DFW crew room Thursday - he made it clear that discussions this week were trilateral, between AA, ENY MEC and ENY mgmt.
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