Envoy in base or PSA as a commuter???
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From: CRJ CA
I live just north of DFW and have commuted to both TYS and DCA. It’s not a bad commute. 5 flights a day going to TYS. Even got a 319 doing one of those legs next month. I was at PSA before moving to Dallas though so YMMV.
Good thing is you can one leg commute to any PSA base from DFW.
Good thing is you can one leg commute to any PSA base from DFW.
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Currently living in DFW, family has no desire to move again until we hit a mainline. Need to decide between Envoy or commuting with PSA? Do know about new contract at PSA which makes it less of a pay cut from where I'm currently at. If I can get DCA with PSA, I could crash pad with mom, but that means dealing with mom which brings it's own discomfort. Keep reading to live in base if you can, but the low Envoy pay bites. Based on current environment what would be your preference between the two? Why?
Envoy, Skywest, and Mesa have bases in DFW. Envoy is obviously AAs crown jewel premier regional and it will always have a home in DFW. Mesa is the next largest airline but it is not a wholly owned like Envoy and AA has been very unhappy with their performance as of recent even threatening to remove 4 airplanes from contract as early as the September if they don't improve. Skywest has a decent although significantly smaller presence in DFW compared to Envoy and Mesa and is only operating on a 4 year contract there which it's alittle more than 6 months into. Their performance has been good so the liklyhood of them staying is decent but nothing is ever certain at an airline let alone regionals. If pay is what matters most to you Skywest may be the way to go. Overall options for fleet types, career stability and security with a guaranteed flow (someday) to a major Envoy is your choice. Can't say I'd recommend Mesa for anything other than an emergency backup incase skywest or envoy don't bite which the only case would be a spotty past record. Good luck! Welcome to the jungle!
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DCA isn't a terrible a commute out of the metroplex. I didn't read the wall of text above but it looked pretty miserable. Commuting isn't great but holding DFW at envoy is going to take a while. Mesa is trash and who knows about skyweezy. My 2 cents.
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Not true. Had an envoy newhire in the jumpseat a few weeks ago. Was still in Sims and had already been assigned the 175 in DFW off the bat.
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Not everyone gets the 175. You have almost no control over what aircraft you are assigned at Envoy. If you’re not a cadet, you’re not getting the 175, even then, there have been all 145 classes..
It will take a while to hold the 145 in dfw, plus it’s shrinking. CRJ doesn’t even have a dfw base..
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News flash dorkwood.
Not everyone gets the 175. You have almost no control over what aircraft you are assigned at Envoy. If you’re not a cadet, you’re not getting the 175, even then, there have been all 145 classes.
It will take a while to hold the 145 in dfw, plus it’s shrinking. CRJ doesn’t even have a dfw base..
Not everyone gets the 175. You have almost no control over what aircraft you are assigned at Envoy. If you’re not a cadet, you’re not getting the 175, even then, there have been all 145 classes.
It will take a while to hold the 145 in dfw, plus it’s shrinking. CRJ doesn’t even have a dfw base..
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[QUOTE=Lostbaggage;2815766]Since you aren't keen on reading or following a forum I figure I'll help you out. Hopefully you don't actually fly because your comprehensive skills leave much to be desired. I NEVER spoke to someone having control of what airplane they have or what the odds were. All I stated was a fact. I had an envoy newhire in the jumpseat who was given the 175 in DFW off the bat. Didn't say anyone should expect that. Didn't say it was typical. Again. Just stated a fact. Thanks for the comment tho, Dorkwood.
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I think you meant comprehension, words matter, hopefully you’re not flying because APC keyboard warrior stuff. A sample size of one on the 175. Cherry picked “fact” is cherry picked.
[/QUOTEI think you meant comprehension, words matter, hopefully you’re not flying because APC keyboard warrior stuff. A sample size of one on the 175. Cherry picked “fact” is cherry picked.
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To imply the fact is cherry picked would mean I went out to find it. I didn't pick the fact. I was told the fact. Gotta love all of this envoy professionalism. They really seem to favor employing the mouthy dorks from Embry riddle.
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