New vacancy and DISPLACEMENT bid
10-15-2019, 02:02 PM
#233
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Confused. Question on how to interpret flowplan.
I see that some people who were displaced from one CA status to another CA status appear twice on the new flowplan.
For example, someone displaced on the October bid award from DCL to DCE appears first with a training date early next year for DCE. They also appear farther down the flowplan with their earlier July bid award from DFL to DCL, with a training date next month for DCL.
Do they have to go through the training for both upgrades, or is the DFL to DCL upgrade canceled, and they will only be going through the displacement training?
Confusing since they list both.
I see that some people who were displaced from one CA status to another CA status appear twice on the new flowplan.
For example, someone displaced on the October bid award from DCL to DCE appears first with a training date early next year for DCE. They also appear farther down the flowplan with their earlier July bid award from DFL to DCL, with a training date next month for DCL.
Do they have to go through the training for both upgrades, or is the DFL to DCL upgrade canceled, and they will only be going through the displacement training?
Confusing since they list both.
10-15-2019, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CrowneVic
Confused. Question on how to interpret flowplan.
I see that some people who were displaced from one CA status to another CA status appear twice on the new flowplan.
For example, someone displaced on the October bid award from DCL to DCE appears first with a training date early next year for DCE. They also appear farther down the flowplan with their earlier July bid award from DFL to DCL, with a training date next month for DCL.
Do they have to go through the training for both upgrades, or is the DFL to DCL upgrade canceled, and they will only be going through the displacement training?
Confusing since they list both.
I see that some people who were displaced from one CA status to another CA status appear twice on the new flowplan.
For example, someone displaced on the October bid award from DCL to DCE appears first with a training date early next year for DCE. They also appear farther down the flowplan with their earlier July bid award from DFL to DCL, with a training date next month for DCL.
Do they have to go through the training for both upgrades, or is the DFL to DCL upgrade canceled, and they will only be going through the displacement training?
Confusing since they list both.
10-15-2019, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
Yes. Very wasteful, but that’s Envoy. This could be avoided if the company wanted to talk to the union. But the union would want to talk about, let’s say improvements to reserve. And Envoy would rather waste money and spite the pilots.
For some, that means both a QU and a long-term training. There may even be others with two long-terms! Yikes!! Need to check.
10-15-2019, 03:56 PM
#236
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Originally Posted by CrowneVic
Wow! So all the folks in that situation will end up going through two upgrade training courses?
For some, that means both a QU and a long-term training. There may even be others with two long-terms! Yikes!! Need to check.
For some, that means both a QU and a long-term training. There may even be others with two long-terms! Yikes!! Need to check.
12-04-2019, 06:29 AM
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If you really want to get a sense of when you are upgrading then look at the last upgrade list and look at the flow plan. I was kinda skeptical at this claim at first but after think about it this actually may be correct. Pilots aren’t going to upgrade training for 6-7 months. Company doesn’t want to pay them CA pay for that long.
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